Liabilities / Assets
75th percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 75% of similar nonprofits.
EIN 85-0673635 • 501(c)3 • Columbus, OH
Profile
Applicant is empowering and engaging people around the world in order to respond to this pandemic and the issues it has exposed by providing the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework to allow a network of volunteers to collaborate to solve these and other challenges. Applicant has built a network of volunteers who are collaborating via applicant's slack group. This network is concentrated in the united states but has members in countries throughout the world. Applicant is responding to the shortage of resources and equipment needed to keep people healthy during the pandemic by providing assistance to volunteers who are creating novel solutions to meet these needs, and by providing project management standards and oversight, and an open-source legal, contractual, and licensing framework, to ensure that the work of applicant's volunteer network translates into active supply chains providing desperately needed equipment to health care providers and patients.
Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.
Liabilities / Assets
75th percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 75% of similar nonprofits.
Liabilities / Revenue
98th percentile
Higher debt load relative to revenue than 98% of similar nonprofits.
Net Margin
1st percentile
Higher net margin than 1% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
81st percentile
Higher top officer pay than 81% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
24th percentile
Faster asset growth than 24% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
4th percentile
Faster revenue growth than 4% of similar nonprofits.
Assets
Down$42,321
Down $23,524 (-36%) from 2021
Liabilities
Up$2,072
Up $97 (+4.9%) from 2021
Net Assets
Down$40,249
Down $23,621 (-37%) from 2021
Revenue
Down$375
Down $82,683 (-100%) from 2021
Expenses
Down$23,996
Down $26,324 (-52%) from 2021
Net Income
Down-$23,621
Down $56,359 (-172%) from 2021
Most recent year
2022 • Form 990EZXML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.
The latest 2022 filing currently has linked XML that has not been fully parsed yet. Showing the latest detailed filing from 2021 below.
Applicant is empowering and engaging people around the world in order to respond to this pandemic and the issues it has exposed by providing the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework to allow a network of volunteers to collaborate to solve these and other challenges. Applicant has built a network of volunteers who are collaborating via applicant's slack group. This network is concentrated in the united states but has members in countries throughout the world. Applicant is responding to the shortage of resources and equipment needed to keep people healthy during the pandemic by providing assistance to volunteers who are creating novel solutions to meet these needs, and by providing project management standards and oversight, and an open-source legal, contractual, and licensing framework, to ensure that the work of applicant's volunteer network translates into active supply chains providing desperately needed equipment to health care providers and patients.
| Description | Grants | Expenses |
|---|---|---|
| PROTOTYPING OF MEDICAL EQUIPMENT 1.) DESIGN OF PPE, MASKS AND FACE SHIELDS WITH DESIGN DISTRIBUTION NUMBERING IN THE MULTI-MILLIONS AND PHYSICAL DELIVERABLES BEYOND COUNTING. 2.) ONE OPEN SOURCE PRODUCT AT MARKET, BEFORE FDA. 3.) MULTIPLE TECHNOLOGIES TESTED BY THE USG (SANDIA LABS AND US ARMY). 4.) DEVELOPMENT OF A COMPREHENSIVE SUITE OF EARLY STAGE MEDICAL HARDWARE COUNTERMEASURES RELATING TO COVID, WITH UTILITY BEYOND THE PANDEMIC. THESE INCLUDE MULTIPLE VENTILATORS, SOFTWARE AND HUMAN AND LOGISTIC COORDINATION SOFTWARE (REACH4HELP). 5.) MORE THAN 100 PROJECTS BEGUN. 6.) AN UNFUNDED HELPFUL/NIST COLLABORATION EXPLORING MEDICAL SUPPLY CHAIN FUNCTIONINGS AND RESULTING IN THE PRODUCTION OF A CONCEPT SOLUTION. | $0 | $6,046 |
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| BRIAN FINCH | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
| ANDREW LAMB | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
| ROBERT READ | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
“Description: bank fees. Amount: 20. Description: office expense. Amount: 1,280. Description: research & development. Amount: 7,024. Description: software subscriptions. Amount: 20,853. Description: business licenses & fees. Amount: 2. Description: marketing. Amount: 1,814. Description: website development & hosting. Amount: 724. Description: sales tax. Amount: 127. Description: filing fees. Amount: 50. Description: meals & entertainment. Amount: 136. Description: membership & dues. Amount: 3,891. Total to form 990-ez, line 16: 35,921.”
“Description: prior period adjustment. Amount: 5,851.”
“Description: accounts receivable. Beg. Of year amount: 0. End of year amount: 228. Description: prepaid expense. Beg. Of year amount: 178. End of year amount: 3,913. Description: contributions receivable. Beg. Of year amount: 7,259. End of year amount: 0.”
“Description: accounts payable. Beg. Of year amount: 413. End of year amount: 1,045. Description: accrued expenses. Beg. Of year amount: 4,855. End of year amount: 930.”
This appendix keeps the raw XML leaves available for debugging and edge-case review. The human report above is the primary experience.
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| IRS990EZ/Form990TotalAssetsGrp/BOYAmt | 0 | 30549 |
| IRS990EZ/Form990TotalAssetsGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 65845 |
| IRS990EZ/GrossReceiptsAmt | 0 | 83058 |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIIIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartVInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/LobbyingActivitiesInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/MadeLoansToFromOfficersInd | 0 | 0 |
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| IRS990EZ/NetAssetsOrFundBalancesBOYAmt | 0 | 25281 |
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| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 2 | 0 |
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| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 0 | BRIAN FINCH |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 1 | ANDREW LAMB |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 2 | ROBERT READ |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 0 | DIRECTOR |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 1 | DIRECTOR |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 2 | DIRECTOR |
| IRS990EZ/OperateHospitalInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/Organization501c3Ind | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/OrganizationDissolvedEtcInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OrganizationHadUBIInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherAssetsTotalDetail/BOYAmt | 0 | 7437 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherAssetsTotalDetail/EOYAmt | 0 | 4141 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherChangesInNetAssetsAmt | 0 | 5851 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherExpensesTotalAmt | 0 | 35921 |
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| IRS990EZ/PoliticalCampaignActyInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/PrimaryExemptPurposeTxt | 0 | APPLICANT IS EMPOWERING AND ENGAGING PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO THIS PANDEMIC AND THE ISSUES IT HAS EXPOSED BY PROVIDING THE ESSENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND AN ORGANIZATIONAL FRAMEWORK TO ALLOW A NETWORK OF VOLUNTEERS TO COLLABORATE TO SOLVE THESE AND OTHER CHALLENGES. APPLICANT HAS BUILT A NETWORK OF VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE COLLABORATING VIA APPLICANT'S SLACK GROUP. THIS NETWORK IS CONCENTRATED IN THE UNITED STATES BUT HAS MEMBERS IN COUNTRIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. APPLICANT IS RESPONDING TO THE SHORTAGE OF RESOURCES AND EQUIPMENT NEEDED TO KEEP PEOPLE HEALTHY DURING THE PANDEMIC BY PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE CREATING NOVEL SOLUTIONS TO MEET THESE NEEDS, AND BY PROVIDING PROJECT MANAGEMENT STANDARDS AND OVERSIGHT, AND AN OPEN-SOURCE LEGAL, CONTRACTUAL, AND LICENSING FRAMEWORK, TO ENSURE THAT THE WORK OF APPLICANT'S VOLUNTEER NETWORK TRANSLATES INTO ACTIVE SUPPLY CHAINS PROVIDING DESPERATELY NEEDED EQUIPMENT TO HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS AND PATIENTS. |
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| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/DescriptionProgramSrvcAccomTxt | 0 | PROTOTYPING OF MEDICAL EQUIPMENT 1.) DESIGN OF PPE, MASKS AND FACE SHIELDS WITH DESIGN DISTRIBUTION NUMBERING IN THE MULTI-MILLIONS AND PHYSICAL DELIVERABLES BEYOND COUNTING. 2.) ONE OPEN SOURCE PRODUCT AT MARKET, BEFORE FDA. 3.) MULTIPLE TECHNOLOGIES TESTED BY THE USG (SANDIA LABS AND US ARMY). 4.) DEVELOPMENT OF A COMPREHENSIVE SUITE OF EARLY STAGE MEDICAL HARDWARE COUNTERMEASURES RELATING TO COVID, WITH UTILITY BEYOND THE PANDEMIC. THESE INCLUDE MULTIPLE VENTILATORS, SOFTWARE AND HUMAN AND LOGISTIC COORDINATION SOFTWARE (REACH4HELP). 5.) MORE THAN 100 PROJECTS BEGUN. 6.) AN UNFUNDED HELPFUL/NIST COLLABORATION EXPLORING MEDICAL SUPPLY CHAIN FUNCTIONINGS AND RESULTING IN THE PRODUCTION OF A CONCEPT SOLUTION. |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/GrantsAndAllocationsAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/ProgramServiceExpensesAmt | 0 | 6046 |
| IRS990EZ/ProhibitedTaxShelterTransInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/RelatedOrganizationCtrlEntInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ScheduleBNotRequiredInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/SchoolOperatingInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/StatesWhereCopyOfReturnIsFldCd | 0 | OH |
| IRS990EZ/SubjectToProxyTaxInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/SumOfTotalLiabilitiesGrp/BOYAmt | 0 | 5268 |
| IRS990EZ/SumOfTotalLiabilitiesGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 1975 |
| IRS990EZ/TanningServicesProvidedInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedOnOrganizationMgrAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4911Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4912Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4955Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxReimbursedByOrganizationAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalExpensesAmt | 0 | 50320 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalProgramServiceExpensesAmt | 0 | 6046 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalRevenueAmt | 0 | 83058 |
| IRS990EZ/TrnsfrExmptNonChrtblRltdOrgInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TypeOfOrganizationCorpInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/WebsiteAddressTxt | 0 | HTTPS://HELPFULENGINEERING.ORG |
| IRS990ScheduleA/First5Years170Ind | 0 | X |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContriRcvd170Grp/CurrentTaxYearAmt | 0 | 3450 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContriRcvd170Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 34504 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContriRcvd170Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 37954 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsRltdActivitiesAmt | 0 | 79608 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/PublicOrganization170Ind | 0 | X |
| IRS990ScheduleA/PublicSupportTotal170Amt | 0 | 37954 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalCalendarYear170Grp/CurrentTaxYearAmt | 0 | 3450 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalCalendarYear170Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 34504 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalCalendarYear170Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 37954 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportAmt | 0 | 37954 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 0 | DESCRIPTION: BANK FEES. AMOUNT: 20. DESCRIPTION: OFFICE EXPENSE. AMOUNT: 1,280. DESCRIPTION: RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT. AMOUNT: 7,024. DESCRIPTION: SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTIONS. AMOUNT: 20,853. DESCRIPTION: BUSINESS LICENSES & FEES. AMOUNT: 2. DESCRIPTION: MARKETING. AMOUNT: 1,814. DESCRIPTION: WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT & HOSTING. AMOUNT: 724. DESCRIPTION: SALES TAX. AMOUNT: 127. DESCRIPTION: FILING FEES. AMOUNT: 50. DESCRIPTION: MEALS & ENTERTAINMENT. AMOUNT: 136. DESCRIPTION: MEMBERSHIP & DUES. AMOUNT: 3,891. TOTAL TO FORM 990-EZ, LINE 16: 35,921. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 1 | DESCRIPTION: PRIOR PERIOD ADJUSTMENT. AMOUNT: 5,851. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 2 | DESCRIPTION: ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE. BEG. OF YEAR AMOUNT: 0. END OF YEAR AMOUNT: 228. DESCRIPTION: PREPAID EXPENSE. BEG. OF YEAR AMOUNT: 178. END OF YEAR AMOUNT: 3,913. DESCRIPTION: CONTRIBUTIONS RECEIVABLE. BEG. OF YEAR AMOUNT: 7,259. END OF YEAR AMOUNT: 0. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 3 | DESCRIPTION: ACCOUNTS PAYABLE. BEG. OF YEAR AMOUNT: 413. END OF YEAR AMOUNT: 1,045. DESCRIPTION: ACCRUED EXPENSES. BEG. OF YEAR AMOUNT: 4,855. END OF YEAR AMOUNT: 930. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 0 | FORM 990-EZ, PART I, LINE 16 - OTHER EXPENSES |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 1 | FORM 990-EZ, PART I, LINE 20 - OTHER CHANGES IN NET ASSETS |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 2 | FORM 990-EZ, PART II, LINE 24 - OTHER ASSETS |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 3 | FORM 990-EZ, PART II, LINE 26 - OTHER LIABILITIES |
| TransferPrsnlBnftContractsDecl/DeclarationDesc | 0 | THE ORGANIZATION DID NOT, DURING THE YEAR, RECEIVE ANY FUNDS, DIRECTLY,OR INDIRECTLY, TO PAY PREMIUMS ON A PERSONAL BENEFIT CONTRACT.THE ORGANIZATION, DID NOT, DURING THE YEAR, PAY ANY PREMIUMS, DIRECTLY,OR INDIRECTLY, ON A PERSONAL BENEFIT CONTRACT. |
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| ReturnHeader/AdditionalFilerInformation/TrustedCustomerGrp/IdentityAssuranceLevelCd | 0 | IAL1 |
| ReturnHeader/AdditionalFilerInformation/TrustedCustomerGrp/TrustedCustomerCd | 0 | 0 |
| ReturnHeader/BuildTS | 0 | 2022-09-23 18:48:47Z |
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| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/PersonTitleTxt | 0 | CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER |
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| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/SignatureDt | 0 | 2022-05-10 |
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| ReturnHeader/Filer/BusinessNameControlTxt | 0 | HELP |
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| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/CityNm | 0 | COLUMBUS |
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| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/ZIPCd | 0 | 43215 |
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| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerFirmName/BusinessNameLine1Txt | 0 | GBQ PARTNERS LLC |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/AddressLine1Txt | 0 | 5580 MONROE STREET SUITE 210 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/CityNm | 0 | SYLVANIA |
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| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PhoneNum | 0 | 4198858338 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PreparerPersonNm | 0 | DAVID PEER |
| ReturnHeader/ReturnTs | 0 | 2022-05-10T08:04:19-05:00 |
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| ReturnHeader/SigningOfficerGrp/PersonFullName/PersonLastNm | 0 | TREUHAFT |
| ReturnHeader/TaxPeriodBeginDt | 0 | 2021-01-01 |
| ReturnHeader/TaxPeriodEndDt | 0 | 2021-12-31 |
| ReturnHeader/TaxYr | 0 | 2021 |
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