Civic Intelligence

Edgemar Center for the Arts Inc

EIN 95-4757169 • 501(c)3 • Los Angeles, CA

Pub. 78 Eligible

Profile

The organization's function is to develop a community theater that will provide entertainment and outreach programs to senior citizens and children

13112 Dewey StLos Angeles, CA 90066

www.edgemarcenter.org

Siviq Scores

Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.

Liabilities / Assets

93rd percentile

1.00x

Higher debt load relative to assets than 93% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Liabilities / Revenue

Score unavailable

No value available

Liabilities-to-revenue requires both liabilities and revenue on the latest valid filing.

Source year 2024

Net Margin

Score unavailable

No value available

Net margin requires both revenue and expenses on the latest valid filing.

Source year 2024

Top Officer Pay

81st percentile

$0

Higher top officer pay than 81% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Asset Growth

48th percentile

-3.1%

Faster asset growth than 48% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Revenue Growth

3rd percentile

-100%

Faster revenue growth than 3% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Assets

Down

$346,699

Down $11,029 (-3.1%) from 2023

Liabilities

Down

$346,699

Down $11,029 (-3.1%) from 2023

Net Assets

Flat

$0

Flat from 2023

Revenue

Down

$0

Down $659 (-100%) from 2023

Expenses

Down

$10,731

Down $62,075 (-85%) from 2023

Net Income

Up

-$10,731

Up $61,416 (+85%) from 2023

Trend Graphs

Balance Sheet Trend

Grouped bars show assets, liabilities, and net assets across loaded filings.

$600K$400K$200K$0Assets 2011: $443,993Liabilities 2011: $104,887Net Assets 2011: $339,1062011Assets 2012: $392,746Liabilities 2012: $117,524Net Assets 2012: $275,2222012Assets 2013: $445,642Liabilities 2013: $119,524Net Assets 2013: $326,1182013Assets 2014: $457,978Liabilities 2014: $197,472Net Assets 2014: $260,5062014Assets 2015: $423,482Liabilities 2015: $142,352Net Assets 2015: $281,1302015Assets 2016: $401,826Liabilities 2016: $224,069Net Assets 2016: $177,7572016Assets 2017: $391,563Liabilities 2017: $211,524Net Assets 2017: $180,0392017Assets 2018: $421,224Liabilities 2018: $228,541Net Assets 2018: $192,6832018Assets 2019: $379,557Liabilities 2019: $241,874Net Assets 2019: $137,6832019Assets 2020: $439,132Liabilities 2020: $314,471Net Assets 2020: $124,6612020Assets 2021: $358,662Liabilities 2021: $265,471Net Assets 2021: $93,1912021Assets 2022: $419,095Liabilities 2022: $129,471Net Assets 2022: $289,6242022Assets 2023: $357,728Liabilities 2023: $357,728Net Assets 2023: $02023Assets 2024: $346,699Liabilities 2024: $346,699Net Assets 2024: $02024

Highlighted filing

2024

Assets$346,699
Liabilities$346,699
Net Assets$0

Operations Trend

Revenue, expenses, and net income by year, with the latest filing highlighted.

$400K$200K$0-$200KRevenue 2011: $375,468Expenses 2011: $391,835Net Income 2011: -$16,3672011Expenses 2012: $225,4992012Expenses 2013: $199,3132013Revenue 2014: $143,019Expenses 2014: $208,631Net Income 2014: -$65,6122014Revenue 2015: $228,542Expenses 2015: $207,918Net Income 2015: $20,6242015Revenue 2016: $78,098Expenses 2016: $181,471Net Income 2016: -$103,3732016Revenue 2017: $157,616Expenses 2017: $155,334Net Income 2017: $2,2822017Revenue 2018: $134,661Expenses 2018: $122,017Net Income 2018: $12,6442018Revenue 2019: $98,431Expenses 2019: $153,431Net Income 2019: -$55,0002019Revenue 2020: $122,446Expenses 2020: $135,468Net Income 2020: -$13,0222020Revenue 2021: $13,845Expenses 2021: $26,828Net Income 2021: -$12,9832021Revenue 2022: $71,124Expenses 2022: $30,247Net Income 2022: $40,8772022Revenue 2023: $659Expenses 2023: $72,806Net Income 2023: -$72,1472023Revenue 2024: $0Expenses 2024: $10,731Net Income 2024: -$10,7312024

Highlighted filing

2024

Revenue$0
Expenses$10,731
Net Income-$10,731

Filings

Balance SheetOperations
YearAssetsLiabilitiesNet AssetsRevenueExpensesNet Income
2024Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.$3.47$3.47$0.00$0.00$0.11$0.11
2023Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$3.58$3.58$0.00$0.01$0.73$0.72
2022Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.$4.19$1.29$2.90$0.71$0.30$0.41
2021Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$3.59$2.65$0.93$0.14$0.27$0.13
2020Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$4.39$3.14$1.25$1.22$1.35$0.13
2019Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$3.80$2.42$1.38$0.98$1.53$0.55
2018Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$4.21$2.29$1.93$1.35$1.22$0.13
2017Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$3.92$2.12$1.80$1.58$1.55$0.02
2016Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$4.02$2.24$1.78$0.78$1.81$1.03
2015Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$4.23$1.42$2.81$2.29$2.08$0.21
2014Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$4.58$1.97$2.61$1.43$2.09$0.66
2013Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.$4.46$1.20$3.26$1.99
2012Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.$3.93$1.18$2.75$2.25
2011Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$4.44$1.05$3.39$3.75$3.92$0.16
Latest Filing Detail
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Filing Snapshot
Filing Period
Jan 1, 2024 to Dec 31, 2024
Signed
Oct 20, 2025
Return Version
2024v5.0
Gross Receipts
$0
Mission and Program Overview

Mission

The organization's function is to develop a community theater that will provide entertainment and outreach programs to senior citizens and children

To develop a community theater that will provide entertainment and outreach programs to senior citizens and children

Balance Sheet Detail
LineBeginningEndChange
Assets
Land, Buildings, and Equipment, Net$346,699$346,699→ $0
Loans From Officers Directors$37,029--
Cash and Non-Interest-Bearing Accounts$11,029--
Total Assets$357,728$346,699▼ $11,029
Liabilities
Other Liabilities$320,699$346,699▲ $26,000
Total Liabilities$357,728$346,699▼ $11,029
Net Assets / Fund Balance
Total Net Assets Fund Balance$0$0→ $0
Total Liabilities and Net Assets / Fund Balance$357,728$346,699▼ $11,029
Compensation and Service Providers

Board Members and Trustees

NameTitle
MichelleDirector
Revenue and Support

Revenue Composition

Contributions and Grants
$0
Program Service Revenue
$0
Investment Income
$0
Other Revenue
$0
Change in Net Assets
$-10,731
Expenses and Functional Allocation

Major Expense Lines

Line ItemAmount
Other Expenses$10,731
Grants and Similar Amounts Paid$0
Professional Fundraising Fees$0
Salaries, Compensation, and Employee Benefits$0
Total Fundraising Expense$0

Functional Expense Allocation

Line ItemProgramManagementFundraisingTotal
Depreciation Depletion---$10,731
Total Functional Expenses$0$0$0$10,731
Fundraising, Events, and Gaming
Fundraising activities
No
Gaming activities
No
Professional fundraiser used
No

Fundraising and Gaming Totals

Line ItemAmount
Professional Fundraising Fees$0
Political and Lobbying Activity
Political campaign activity
No
Lobbying activity
No
Insider Transactions and Loans

Loans and Receivables

Line ItemBeginningEndChange
Loans from Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees$37,029--
Governance and Compliance

Governance Checklist

Compiled or reviewed by an accountant
No
Backup withholding compliance
No
Business relationship with 35% controlled entity
No
Business relationship with family members
No
Business relationship with organization members
No
Material changes to governing documents
No
Compensation from other sources disclosed
No
CEO compensation reviewed
No
Other officer compensation reviewed
No
Conflict-of-interest policy
No
Audited financial statements prepared
No
Key decisions subject to board approval
No
Management duties delegated
No
Filing and Contact Details

Filer

Filer Name
Creative Center for the Arts
EIN
95-4757169
Phone
3103130279
Address
13112 DEWEY ST, LOS ANGELES, CA 90066

Signing Officer

Name
Michelle Valdez
Title
Michelle Valdez
Phone
3107297174
Signed
2025-10-20
Discuss with paid preparer
Yes

Organization Details

Principal Officer
Michelle Danner
Legal Domicile
CA
Voting Board Members
1
Independent Board Members
0
Employees
0

Preparer

Firm
Excellent Financial Solution
Address
1276 E Colorado Blvd, Pasadena, CA 91106
Preparer
Armando Lopez
Phone
6264862455
Supplemental Narrative

Additional Explanations

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