Civic Intelligence

Both Sides of the Conversation

EIN 85-4088405 • 501(c)3 • San Francisco, CA

Profile

The mission of both sides of the conversation is to increase mobilization of advancement in black and brown communities by providing a safe space for conscious dialogue concerning the needs, systemic barriers, resource and remedies. Both sides of the conversation envisions a world where black and brown communities thrive in love, health, education, information and resources through open empowering dialogue.

PO Box 347518San Francisco, CA 94134

www.bsotc.org

Siviq Scores

Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.

Liabilities / Assets

86th percentile

0.35x

Higher debt load relative to assets than 86% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Liabilities / Revenue

78th percentile

0.05x

Higher debt load relative to revenue than 78% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Net Margin

60th percentile

7.4%

Higher net margin than 60% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Top Officer Pay

91st percentile

$33,509

Higher top officer pay than 91% of similar nonprofits.

Top officer pay equals 8.0% of source-year revenue.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Asset Growth

19th percentile

-52%

Faster asset growth than 19% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Revenue Growth

45th percentile

-6.6%

Faster revenue growth than 45% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Balance Sheet
Liabilities / Assets86th percentile

Assets

Down

$58,845

Down $64,131 (-52%) from 2023

Liabilities

Down

$20,362

Down $95,064 (-82%) from 2023

Net Assets

Up

$38,483

Up $30,933 (+410%) from 2023

Operations
Liabilities / Revenue78th percentileNet Margin60th percentile

Revenue

Down

$416,513

Down $29,626 (-6.6%) from 2023

Expenses

Down

$385,580

Down $153,235 (-28%) from 2023

Net Income

Up

$30,933

Up $123,609 (+133%) from 2023

Trend Graphs

Balance Sheet Trend

Asset Growth19th percentile

Grouped bars show assets, liabilities, and net assets across loaded filings.

$150K$100K$50K$0Assets 2022: $100,957Liabilities 2022: $731Net Assets 2022: $100,2262022Assets 2023: $122,976Liabilities 2023: $115,426Net Assets 2023: $7,5502023Assets 2024: $58,845Liabilities 2024: $20,362Net Assets 2024: $38,4832024

Highlighted filing

2024

Assets$58,845
Liabilities$20,362
Net Assets$38,483
Open 2024 Filing

Operations Trend

Revenue Growth45th percentile

Revenue, expenses, and net income by year, with the latest filing highlighted.

$600K$400K$200K$0-$200KRevenue 2022: $469,376Expenses 2022: $396,903Net Income 2022: $72,4732022Revenue 2023: $446,139Expenses 2023: $538,815Net Income 2023: -$92,6762023Revenue 2024: $416,513Expenses 2024: $385,580Net Income 2024: $30,9332024

Highlighted filing

2024

Revenue$416,513
Expenses$385,580
Net Income$30,933
Open 2024 Filing

Filings

Most recent year

2024 • Form 990Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.

Open filing
Assets
$58,845
Liabilities
$20,362
Net assets
$38,483
Revenue
$416,513
Expenses
$385,580
Net income
$30,933
Balance SheetOperations
YearAssetsLiabilitiesNet AssetsRevenueExpensesNet Income
2024Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$0.59$0.20$0.38$4.17$3.86$0.31
2023Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$1.23$1.15$0.08$4.46$5.39$0.93
2022Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$1.01$0.01$1.00$4.69$3.97$0.72
Latest Filing Detail
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Filing Snapshot
Filing Period
Jan 1, 2024 to Dec 31, 2024
Signed
May 5, 2025
Return Version
2024v5.1
Gross Receipts
$416,513
Mission and Program Overview

Mission

The mission of both sides of the conversation is to increase mobilization of advancement in black and brown communities by providing a safe space for conscious dialogue concerning the needs, systemic barriers, resource and remedies. Both sides of the conversation envisions a world where black and brown communities thrive in love, health, education, information and resources through open empowering dialogue.

Balance Sheet Detail
LineBeginningEndChange
Assets
Cash and Non-Interest-Bearing Accounts$41,821$40,018▼ $1,803
Prepaid Expenses and Deferred Charges$37,197$0▼ $37,197
Pledges and Grants Receivable$30,099$0▼ $30,099
Land, Buildings, and Equipment, Net$13,859$18,827▲ $4,968
Savings and Temporary Cash Investments-$0-
Accounts Receivable-$0-
Other Notes and Loans Receivable, Net-$0-
Receivable From Disqualified Prsn-$0-
Receivables From Officers Etc-$0-
Investments Other Securities-$0-
Investments Program Related-$0-
Investments in Publicly Traded Securities-$0-
Intangible Assets-$0-
Inventories for Sale or Use-$0-
Total Assets$122,976$58,845▼ $64,131
Other Assets Total-$0-
Liabilities
Other Liabilities$110,126$20,362▼ $89,764
Accounts Payable and Accrued Expenses$5,300--
Total Liabilities$115,426$20,362▼ $95,064
Net Assets / Fund Balance
Net Assets Without Donor Restrictions$7,550$38,483▲ $30,933
Total Net Assets Fund Balance$7,550$38,483▲ $30,933
Total Liabilities and Net Assets / Fund Balance$122,976$58,845▼ $64,131

Asset Categories

AssetBook ValueDepreciationBasis
Equipment$18,827$11,567$30,394
Compensation and Service Providers
Top Officer Pay91st percentile

Employees

NameTitleFull / Part TimeBaseTotal
Jon D HenryExecutive DirectorPT$33,509$33,509
Angelique ShiversSecretaryPT$12,450$12,450

Board Members and Trustees

NameTitle
Monyca Duarte-RobertsPresident
Denise AlexanderVice President
Dionne ParlerTreasurer
Revenue and Support

Revenue Composition

Contributions and Grants
$416,513
Program Service Revenue
$0
Investment Income
$0
Other Revenue
$0
All Other Contributions
$416,513
Change in Net Assets
$30,933
Expenses and Functional Allocation

Major Expense Lines

Line ItemAmount
Other Expenses$305,814
Salaries, Compensation, and Employee Benefits$45,959
Grants and Similar Amounts Paid$33,807
Professional Fundraising Fees$0
Total Fundraising Expense$0

Functional Expense Allocation

Line ItemProgramManagementFundraisingTotal
Fees for Services Other$72,994$4,284-$77,278
Current Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees$45,859$100-$45,959
Grants to Domestic Individuals$30,500--$30,500
Fees for Services Accounting$15,525$5,175-$20,700
Travel$14,806$4,936-$19,742
All Other Expenses$15,595$3,624-$19,219
Other Expenses$9,726$3,242-$12,968
Advertising$8,000$790-$8,790
Office Expenses$5,118$1,761-$6,879
Insurance$1,636$3,956-$5,592
Depreciation Depletion-$5,074-$5,074
Grants to Domestic Orgs$3,307--$3,307
Total Functional Expenses$352,638$32,942$0$385,580
Fundraising, Events, and Gaming
Fundraising activities
No
Gaming activities
No
Professional fundraiser used
No

Fundraising and Gaming Totals

Line ItemAmount
Professional Fundraising Fees$0
Political and Lobbying Activity
Political campaign activity
No
Lobbying activity
No
Subject to proxy tax
No
Insider Transactions and Loans

Loans and Receivables

Line ItemBeginningEndChange
Receivables from Disqualified Persons-$0-
Receivables from Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees-$0-
Debt and Bond Financing

Other Reported Liabilities

LiabilityAmount
Credit cards payable$20,362
Governance and Compliance

Governance Checklist

Compiled or reviewed by an accountant
No
Backup withholding compliance
Yes
Business relationship with 35% controlled entity
No
Business relationship with family members
No
Business relationship with organization members
No
Material changes to governing documents
No
Compensation from other sources disclosed
No
CEO compensation reviewed
No
Other officer compensation reviewed
No
Conflict-of-interest policy
No
Audited financial statements prepared
No
Key decisions subject to board approval
No
Management duties delegated
No

Governance Explanations

Form 990, Part VI, Section B, Line 11B

“No review was or will be conducted.”

Form 990, Part VI, Section C, Line 19

“No other documents available to the public.”

Filing and Contact Details

Filer

Filer Name
Both Sides Of The Conversation
EIN
85-4088405
Phone
4159139034
Address
PO Box 347518, San Francisco, CA 94134

Signing Officer

Name
Jon D Henry
Title
Executive Director
Signed
2025-05-05
Discuss with paid preparer
Yes

Organization Details

Principal Officer
Jon D Henry
Formed
2020
Legal Domicile
CA
Voting Board Members
5
Independent Board Members
5
Employees
0
Volunteers
15

Preparer

Firm
The Virtual CPAs
Address
19528 Ventura Blvd Ste 104, Tarzana, CA 91356
Preparer
Sarah Moosani CPA
Phone
3107501716
Supplemental Narrative

Additional Explanations

Part IX, Line 11G - Fees for Services

“The amount reported includes stipends paid to volunteers who provided program-related services and were issued 1099s. These stipends totaled $72,904 for the year.”

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IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt1NO OTHER DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt2The amount reported includes stipends paid to volunteers who provided program-related services and were issued 1099s. These stipends totaled $72,904 for the year.
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