Liabilities / Assets
73rd percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 73% of similar nonprofits.
EIN 84-2314169 • 501(c)3 • Indianapolis, IN
Profile
Provided childcare services in underserved community and extended program related nutrition and Pre-k cognitive education and training.
Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.
Liabilities / Assets
73rd percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 73% of similar nonprofits.
Liabilities / Revenue
32nd percentile
Higher debt load relative to revenue than 32% of similar nonprofits.
Net Margin
66th percentile
Higher net margin than 66% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
40th percentile
Higher top officer pay than 40% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
95th percentile
Faster asset growth than 95% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
89th percentile
Faster revenue growth than 89% of similar nonprofits.
Assets
Up$53,207
Up $28,207 (+113%) from 2023
Liabilities
Down$15,000
Down $10,000 (-40%) from 2023
Net Assets
Up$38,207
Up $38,207 from 2023
Revenue
Up$1,097,115
Up $508,758 (+86%) from 2023
Expenses
Up$945,204
Up $575,008 (+155%) from 2023
Net Income
Down$151,911
Down $66,250 (-30%) from 2023
Most recent year
2024 • Form 990Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.
Provided childcare services in underserved community and extended program related nutrition and Pre-k cognitive education and training.
Community development Neighborhood improvement Youth care through services and training
| Line | Beginning | End | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| Assets | |||
| Cash and Non-Interest-Bearing Accounts | $25,000 | $53,207 | ▲ $28,207 |
| Total Assets | $25,000 | $53,207 | ▲ $28,207 |
| Liabilities | |||
| Accounts Payable and Accrued Expenses | $25,000 | $15,000 | ▼ $10,000 |
| Total Liabilities | $25,000 | $15,000 | ▼ $10,000 |
| Net Assets / Fund Balance | |||
| Net Assets Without Donor Restrictions | - | $38,207 | - |
| Total Net Assets Fund Balance | $0 | $38,207 | ▲ $38,207 |
| Total Liabilities and Net Assets / Fund Balance | $25,000 | $53,207 | ▲ $28,207 |
| Name | Title |
|---|---|
| Philecia Jones | CEO |
| Line Item | Amount |
|---|---|
| Salaries, Compensation, and Employee Benefits | $704,257 |
| Other Expenses | $240,947 |
| Grants and Similar Amounts Paid | $0 |
| Professional Fundraising Fees | $0 |
| Total Fundraising Expense | $0 |
| Line Item | Program | Management | Fundraising | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Other Salaries and Wages | $639,257 | - | - | $639,257 |
| Office Expenses | $72,879 | - | - | $72,879 |
| Current Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees | - | $65,000 | - | $65,000 |
| Occupancy | $54,000 | - | - | $54,000 |
| Advertising | $44,661 | - | - | $44,661 |
| Insurance | - | $36,707 | - | $36,707 |
| Fees for Services Management | - | $31,700 | - | $31,700 |
| Fees for Services Accounting | - | $1,000 | - | $1,000 |
| Total Functional Expenses | $810,797 | $134,407 | $0 | $945,204 |
| Line Item | Amount |
|---|---|
| Professional Fundraising Fees | $0 |
“Officers are provided written copies of the return prior to IRS submission.”
“Documents will be provided upon request.”
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