Liabilities / Assets
23rd percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 23% of similar nonprofits.
EIN 82-3312912 • 501(c)3 • Dalton, GA
Profile
Champion care to children and families for happy, healthy lives.
Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.
Liabilities / Assets
23rd percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 23% of similar nonprofits.
Liabilities / Revenue
37th percentile
Higher debt load relative to revenue than 37% of similar nonprofits.
Net Margin
11th percentile
Higher net margin than 11% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
98th percentile
Higher top officer pay than 98% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 39.8% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
100th percentile
Faster asset growth than 100% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
50th percentile
Faster revenue growth than 50% of similar nonprofits.
Assets
Up$21,204,017
Up $20,605,755 (+3444%) from 2023
Liabilities
Down$532,853
Down $1,443,279 (-73%) from 2023
Net Assets
Up$20,671,164
Up $22,049,034 (+1600%) from 2023
Revenue
Up$4,201,498
Up $283,089 (+7.2%) from 2023
Expenses
Up$5,091,897
Up $441,726 (+9.5%) from 2023
Net Income
Down-$890,399
Down $158,637 (-22%) from 2023
Most recent year
2024 • Form 990Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.
Champion care to children and families for happy, healthy lives.
| Line | Beginning | End | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| Assets | |||
| Cash and Non-Interest-Bearing Accounts | $93,386 | $1,236,391 | ▲ $1,143,005 |
| Accounts Receivable | $73,222 | $687,269 | ▲ $614,047 |
| Land, Buildings, and Equipment, Net | $408,846 | $402,434 | ▼ $6,412 |
| Prepaid Expenses and Deferred Charges | $22,808 | $27,097 | ▲ $4,289 |
| Total Assets | $598,262 | $21,204,017 | ▲ $20,605,755 |
| Other Assets Total | $0 | $18,850,826 | ▲ $18,850,826 |
| Liabilities | |||
| Accounts Payable and Accrued Expenses | $1,976,132 | $532,853 | ▼ $1,443,279 |
| Total Liabilities | $1,976,132 | $532,853 | ▼ $1,443,279 |
| Net Assets / Fund Balance | |||
| Net Assets With Donor Restrictions | - | $18,850,825 | - |
| Net Assets Without Donor Restrictions | $-1,377,870 | $1,820,339 | ▲ $3,198,209 |
| Total Net Assets Fund Balance | $-1,377,870 | $20,671,164 | ▲ $22,049,034 |
| Total Liabilities and Net Assets / Fund Balance | $598,262 | $21,204,017 | ▲ $20,605,755 |
| Asset | Book Value | Depreciation | Basis |
|---|---|---|---|
| Land | $360,000 | - | $360,000 |
| Equipment | $42,434 | $31,545 | $73,979 |
| Other Assets Org | $18,850,826 | - | - |
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nancy Carnevale Md | Medical Director | FT | $150,774 | $111,110 | $261,884 |
| Emily Brandt Md | Physician | FT | $141,532 | $31,338 | $172,870 |
| Mary T Woodruff | Executive Director | FT | $128,538 | $38,379 | $166,917 |
| Name | Title |
|---|---|
| Robert M Chandler | Chairman |
| Jeffrey D Meyers | President/CEO |
| Sandra D Mckenzie | VP/president of Operations |
| Gary a Middleton | Trustee |
| John P Neal Iii | Trustee |
| Susan S Young | Trustee |
| Steven P Bridenstine | Assistant Treasurer |
| Julie a Soekoro | CFO/treasurer |
| Line Item | Amount |
|---|---|
| Salaries, Compensation, and Employee Benefits | $3,310,469 |
| Other Expenses | $1,781,428 |
| Grants and Similar Amounts Paid | $0 |
| Professional Fundraising Fees | $0 |
| Total Fundraising Expense | $0 |
| Line Item | Program | Management | Fundraising | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Other Salaries and Wages | $2,563,528 | - | - | $2,563,528 |
| Occupancy | $1,099,781 | - | - | $1,099,781 |
| Other Employee Benefits | $446,783 | - | - | $446,783 |
| Fees for Services Other | $361,451 | - | - | $361,451 |
| Payroll Taxes | $197,858 | - | - | $197,858 |
| Pension Plan Contributions | $102,300 | - | - | $102,300 |
| Fees for Services Management | - | $100,000 | - | $100,000 |
| Insurance | $76,661 | - | - | $76,661 |
| Office Expenses | $44,429 | - | - | $44,429 |
| Advertising | $41,907 | - | - | $41,907 |
| Fees for Services Legal | - | $21,520 | - | $21,520 |
| Travel | $15,010 | - | - | $15,010 |
| Other Expenses | $10,240 | - | - | $10,240 |
| Depreciation Depletion | $9,268 | - | - | $9,268 |
| Fees for Service Investment Mgmnt Fees | $1,161 | - | - | $1,161 |
| Total Functional Expenses | $4,970,377 | $121,520 | $0 | $5,091,897 |
| Line Item | Amount |
|---|---|
| Professional Fundraising Fees | $0 |
“The regular trustees of the organization are appointed by the board of trustees of hamilton health care system, inc.”
“Certain capital expenditure and contractual commitment decisions must be subsequently approved by the hamilton health care system board of trustees.”
“The form 990 is prepared by an independent cpa firm and reviewed by executive management. Subsequently, a draft copy of the unfiled form 990 is posted to a secure page on the hamilton health care system website for review and comment by all members of the board of trustees prior to filing with the internal revenue service.”
“The organization has a clear and detailed conflict of interest policy which establishes a procedure for identifying, reviewing and addressing conflicts of interest. The policy also requires each trustee and officer of the organization to annually sign a statement acknowledging receipt for the conflict of interest policy.”
“Under a board resolution, the finance & audit committee of hamilton health care system has the authority to take action on behalf of the board with respect to the compensation of officers and key employees. The finance & audit committee of hamilton health care system maintains minutes of its procedures. On an annual basis the finance & audit committee of hamilton health care system will meet to set the annual compensation of the president/ceo. This action is based on consultation with a third party consulting firm to review the total compensation of the ceo and key employees such that total compensation packages are considered fair market and not excessive.”
“The organization makes its governing documents, conflicts of interest policy and financial statements available to the public upon request.”
“Liability claims not recognized 1,199,558. Intercompany transfers from hamilton health care system, inc. 21,740,068. Prior year net asset difference -193.”
“The system has adopted procedures for determining the existence of uncertain tax positions and the related timing and amount of their impact on the consolidated financial statements and determined that there are no uncertain tax positions as of september 30, 2024 and 2023.”
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