Liabilities / Assets
73rd percentile
Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.
EIN 76-0741802 • 501(c)3 • Harrison, NJ
Profile
The organization was established for the purpose of having other charitable organizations or individuals benefit from both charitable financial assistance and donation's of member's time and effort, regardless of race, religion, or sex. The charitable donations will meet the criteria of 501-c-3 of the internal revenue service.
Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.
Liabilities / Assets
73rd percentile
Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.
Liabilities / Revenue
73rd percentile
Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.
Net Margin
32nd percentile
Higher net margin than 32% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
93rd percentile
Higher top officer pay than 93% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
Score unavailable
No earlier valid filing was available within the previous three public years.
Revenue Growth
Score unavailable
No earlier valid filing was available within the previous three public years.
Assets
Down$3,140
Down $4,126 (-57%) from 2013
Liabilities
$0
No earlier filing loaded for comparison.
Net Assets
Down$3,140
Down $4,126 (-57%) from 2013
Revenue
Up$100,617
Up $97,016 (+2694%) from 2013
Expenses
Up$107,545
Up $98,642 (+1108%) from 2013
Net Income
Down-$6,928
Down $1,626 (-31%) from 2013
Most recent year
2022 • Form 990EZDetailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.
The organization was established for the purpose of having other charitable organizations or individuals benefit from both charitable financial assistance and donation's of member's time and effort, regardless of race, religion, or sex. The charitable donations will meet the criteria of 501-c-3 of the internal revenue service.
| Description | Grants | Expenses |
|---|---|---|
| THE ORGANIZATION BENEFITS OTHER WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS WITH CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AND DONATED TIME AND EFFORT. | $0 | $0 |
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ALLAN FORD | President | PT | $0 | - | - |
| MARC SILVA | Vice President | PT | $0 | - | - |
| MATT MURPHY | Secretary | PT | $0 | - | - |
| PATRICK TRIANO | Treasurer | PT | $0 | - | - |
“Activity classification: community support. Grantee name: multiple. Amount given: 2,200.”
“Activity classification: charitable contributions. Grantee name: multiple. Amount given: 5,550.”
“Activity classification: scholarships. Grantee name: multiple. Amount given: 2,500.”
“Activity classification: proceeds from de la cruz shirt sales. Grantee name: multiple. Amount given: 80,623.”
“Activity classification: proceeds of hernandez donations. Grantee name: jennifer hernandez. Amount given: 11,021. Total included on form 990-ez, line 10: 101,894.”
“Description: office expense. Amount: 145. Description: de la cruz shirts. Amount: 5,506. Total to form 990-ez, line 16: 5,651.”
“Description: due from pba. Beg. Of year amount: 0. End of year amount: 167.”
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| IRS990EZ/AmendedReturnInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/BooksInCareOfDetail/BusinessName/BusinessNameLine1Txt | 0 | PATRICK TRIANO TREASURER |
| IRS990EZ/BooksInCareOfDetail/PhoneNum | 0 | 2018528532 |
| IRS990EZ/BooksInCareOfDetail/USAddress/AddressLine1Txt | 0 | P O BOX 233 |
| IRS990EZ/BooksInCareOfDetail/USAddress/CityNm | 0 | HARRISON |
| IRS990EZ/BooksInCareOfDetail/USAddress/StateAbbreviationCd | 0 | NJ |
| IRS990EZ/BooksInCareOfDetail/USAddress/ZIPCd | 0 | 07029 |
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| IRS990EZ/CashSavingsAndInvestmentsGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 2973 |
| IRS990EZ/ChgMadeToOrgnzngDocNotRptInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ContributionsGiftsGrantsEtcAmt | 0 | 96564 |
| IRS990EZ/DirectIndirectPltclExpendAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/DonorAdvisedFndsInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/EngagedInExcessBenefitTransInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ExcessOrDeficitForYearAmt | 0 | -6928 |
| IRS990EZ/FiledScheduleAInd | 0 | 1 |
| IRS990EZ/ForeignFinancialAccountInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ForeignOfficeInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/Form990TotalAssetsGrp/BOYAmt | 0 | 10068 |
| IRS990EZ/Form990TotalAssetsGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 3140 |
| IRS990EZ/GamingGrossIncomeAmt | 0 | 1640 |
| IRS990EZ/GrantsAndSimilarAmountsPaidAmt | 0 | 101894 |
| IRS990EZ/GrossReceiptsAmt | 0 | 101437 |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIIIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartVInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/LobbyingActivitiesInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/MadeLoansToFromOfficersInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/MethodOfAccountingCashInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/NetAssetsOrFundBalancesBOYAmt | 0 | 10068 |
| IRS990EZ/NetAssetsOrFundBalancesEOYAmt | 0 | 3140 |
| IRS990EZ/NetAssetsOrFundBalancesGrp/BOYAmt | 0 | 10068 |
| IRS990EZ/NetAssetsOrFundBalancesGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 3140 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 0 | 10.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 1 | 5.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 2 | 5.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 3 | 10.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 1 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 2 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 3 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 1 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 2 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 3 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 1 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 2 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 3 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 0 | ALLAN FORD |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 1 | MARC SILVA |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 2 | MATT MURPHY |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 3 | PATRICK TRIANO |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 0 | PRESIDENT |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 1 | VICE PRESIDENT |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 2 | SECRETARY |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 3 | TREASURER |
| IRS990EZ/OperateHospitalInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/Organization501c3Ind | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/OrganizationDissolvedEtcInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OrganizationHadUBIInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherAssetsTotalDetail/BOYAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherAssetsTotalDetail/EOYAmt | 0 | 167 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherChangesInNetAssetsAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherExpensesTotalAmt | 0 | 5651 |
| IRS990EZ/PartVIHghstPdCntrctProfSrvcTxt | 0 | NONE |
| IRS990EZ/PartVIOfCompOfHghstPdEmplTxt | 0 | NONE |
| IRS990EZ/PoliticalCampaignActyInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/PrimaryExemptPurposeTxt | 0 | THE ORGANIZATION WAS ESTABLISHED FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING OTHER CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS BENEFIT FROM BOTH CHARITABLE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND DONATION'S OF MEMBER'S TIME AND EFFORT, REGARDLESS OF RACE, RELIGION, OR SEX. THE CHARITABLE DONATIONS WILL MEET THE CRITERIA OF 501-C-3 OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE. |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramServiceRevenueAmt | 0 | 3233 |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/DescriptionProgramSrvcAccomTxt | 0 | THE ORGANIZATION BENEFITS OTHER WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS WITH CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AND DONATED TIME AND EFFORT. |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/GrantsAndAllocationsAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/ProgramServiceExpensesAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ProhibitedTaxShelterTransInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/RelatedOrganizationCtrlEntInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ScheduleBNotRequiredInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/SchoolOperatingInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/SpecialEventsDirectExpensesAmt | 0 | 820 |
| IRS990EZ/SpecialEventsNetIncomeLossAmt | 0 | 820 |
| IRS990EZ/StatesWhereCopyOfReturnIsFldCd | 0 | NJ |
| IRS990EZ/SubjectToProxyTaxInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/SumOfTotalLiabilitiesGrp/BOYAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/SumOfTotalLiabilitiesGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TanningServicesProvidedInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedOnOrganizationMgrAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4911Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4912Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4955Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxReimbursedByOrganizationAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalExpensesAmt | 0 | 107545 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalRevenueAmt | 0 | 100617 |
| IRS990EZ/TrnsfrExmptNonChrtblRltdOrgInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TypeOfOrganizationCorpInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/WebsiteAddressTxt | 0 | N/A |
| IRS990ScheduleA/AmountsRcvdDsqlfyPersonGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContrisRcvd509Grp/CurrentTaxYearAmt | 0 | 96564 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContrisRcvd509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 6600 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContrisRcvd509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus2YearsAmt | 0 | 6170 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContrisRcvd509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus3YearsAmt | 0 | 739 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContrisRcvd509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 3985 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContrisRcvd509Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 114058 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearAmt | 0 | 4873 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 18472 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus3YearsAmt | 0 | 5022 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 15530 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 43897 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/InvestmentIncomeCYPct | 0 | 0.00000 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/PubliclySupportedOrg509a2Ind | 0 | X |
| IRS990ScheduleA/PublicSupportCY509Pct | 0 | 1.00000 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/PublicSupportTotal509Amt | 0 | 157955 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/SubstAndDsqlfyPrsnsTotGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/SubstantialContributorsAmtGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/ThirtyThrPctSuprtTestsCY509Ind | 0 | X |
| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/CurrentTaxYearAmt | 0 | 101437 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 25072 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus2YearsAmt | 0 | 6170 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus3YearsAmt | 0 | 5761 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 19515 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 157955 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportCalendarYearGrp/CurrentTaxYearAmt | 0 | 101437 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportCalendarYearGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 25072 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportCalendarYearGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus2YearsAmt | 0 | 6170 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportCalendarYearGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus3YearsAmt | 0 | 5761 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportCalendarYearGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 19515 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportCalendarYearGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 157955 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 0 | ACTIVITY CLASSIFICATION: COMMUNITY SUPPORT. GRANTEE NAME: MULTIPLE. AMOUNT GIVEN: 2,200. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 1 | ACTIVITY CLASSIFICATION: CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS. GRANTEE NAME: MULTIPLE. AMOUNT GIVEN: 5,550. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 2 | ACTIVITY CLASSIFICATION: SCHOLARSHIPS. GRANTEE NAME: MULTIPLE. AMOUNT GIVEN: 2,500. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 3 | ACTIVITY CLASSIFICATION: PROCEEDS FROM DE LA CRUZ SHIRT SALES. GRANTEE NAME: MULTIPLE. AMOUNT GIVEN: 80,623. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 4 | ACTIVITY CLASSIFICATION: PROCEEDS OF HERNANDEZ DONATIONS. GRANTEE NAME: JENNIFER HERNANDEZ. AMOUNT GIVEN: 11,021. TOTAL INCLUDED ON FORM 990-EZ, LINE 10: 101,894. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 5 | DESCRIPTION: OFFICE EXPENSE. AMOUNT: 145. DESCRIPTION: DE LA CRUZ SHIRTS. AMOUNT: 5,506. TOTAL TO FORM 990-EZ, LINE 16: 5,651. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 6 | DESCRIPTION: DUE FROM PBA. BEG. OF YEAR AMOUNT: 0. END OF YEAR AMOUNT: 167. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 0 | FORM 990-EZ, PART I, LINE 10 - GRANTS AND SIMILAR AMOUNTS PAID |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 1 | FORM 990-EZ, PART I, LINE 10 - GRANTS AND SIMILAR AMOUNTS PAID |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 2 | FORM 990-EZ, PART I, LINE 10 - GRANTS AND SIMILAR AMOUNTS PAID |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 3 | FORM 990-EZ, PART I, LINE 10 - GRANTS AND SIMILAR AMOUNTS PAID |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 4 | FORM 990-EZ, PART I, LINE 10 - GRANTS AND SIMILAR AMOUNTS PAID |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 5 | FORM 990-EZ, PART I, LINE 16 - OTHER EXPENSES |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 6 | FORM 990-EZ, PART II, LINE 24 - OTHER ASSETS |
| TransferPrsnlBnftContractsDecl/DeclarationDesc | 0 | THE ORGANIZATION DID NOT, DURING THE YEAR, RECEIVE ANY FUNDS, DIRECTLY,OR INDIRECTLY, TO PAY PREMIUMS ON A PERSONAL BENEFIT CONTRACT.THE ORGANIZATION, DID NOT, DURING THE YEAR, PAY ANY PREMIUMS, DIRECTLY,OR INDIRECTLY, ON A PERSONAL BENEFIT CONTRACT. |
| ReturnHeader/AdditionalFilerInformation/TrustedCustomerGrp/AuthenticationAssuranceLevelCd | 0 | AAL1 |
| ReturnHeader/AdditionalFilerInformation/TrustedCustomerGrp/IdentityAssuranceLevelCd | 0 | IAL1 |
| ReturnHeader/AdditionalFilerInformation/TrustedCustomerGrp/TrustedCustomerCd | 0 | 3 |
| ReturnHeader/BuildTS | 0 | 2023-04-26 12:10:37Z |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/DiscussWithPaidPreparerInd | 0 | 1 |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/PersonNm | 0 | PATRICK TRIANO |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/PersonTitleTxt | 0 | TREASURER |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/PhoneNum | 0 | 2018528532 |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/SignatureDt | 0 | 2023-05-12 |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/BusinessName/BusinessNameLine1Txt | 0 | HARRISON PBA LOCAL #22 CIVIC |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/BusinessName/BusinessNameLine2Txt | 0 | ASSOCIATION INC |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/BusinessNameControlTxt | 0 | HARR |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/EIN | 0 | 760741802 |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/PhoneNum | 0 | 2018528532 |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/AddressLine1Txt | 0 | PO BOX 233 |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/CityNm | 0 | HARRISON |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/StateAbbreviationCd | 0 | NJ |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/ZIPCd | 0 | 07029 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerFirmEIN | 0 | 873231666 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerFirmName/BusinessNameLine1Txt | 0 | PKF O'CONNOR DAVIES ADVISORY LLC |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/AddressLine1Txt | 0 | 20 COMMERCE DRIVE SUITE 301 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/CityNm | 0 | CRANFORD |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/StateAbbreviationCd | 0 | NJ |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/ZIPCd | 0 | 070163618 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PhoneNum | 0 | 9082726200 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PreparationDt | 0 | 2023-05-10 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PreparerPersonNm | 0 | EDMOND P BRADY |
| ReturnHeader/ReturnTs | 0 | 2023-05-12T09:22:33-05:00 |
| ReturnHeader/ReturnTypeCd | 0 | 990EZ |
| ReturnHeader/SigningOfficerGrp/PersonFullName/PersonFirstNm | 0 | PATRICK |
| ReturnHeader/SigningOfficerGrp/PersonFullName/PersonLastNm | 0 | TRIANO |
| ReturnHeader/TaxPeriodBeginDt | 0 | 2021-07-01 |
| ReturnHeader/TaxPeriodEndDt | 0 | 2022-06-30 |
| ReturnHeader/TaxYr | 0 | 2021 |
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