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Farmers Rural Electric Cooperative

EIN 61-0189417 • 501(c)12 • Glasgow, KY

Profile

Farmers recc's mission is to provide reliable and competitively priced energy services that will enhance the quality of life for our member-owners and commmunities.

504 South BroadwayGlasgow, KY 42141

www.farmersrecc.com

Siviq Scores

Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.

Liabilities / Assets

63rd percentile

0.59x

Higher debt load relative to assets than 63% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)12 • $100M-$250M nonprofits • Source year 2024

Liabilities / Revenue

36th percentile

1.23x

Higher debt load relative to revenue than 36% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)12 • $100M-$250M nonprofits • Source year 2024

Net Margin

48th percentile

0.0%

Higher net margin than 48% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)12 • $100M-$250M nonprofits • Source year 2024

Top Officer Pay

23rd percentile

$295,353

Higher top officer pay than 23% of similar nonprofits.

Top officer pay equals 0.4% of source-year revenue.

501(c)12 • $100M-$250M nonprofits • Source year 2024

Asset Growth

32nd percentile

2.9%

Faster asset growth than 32% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)12 • $100M-$250M nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Revenue Growth

66th percentile

6.6%

Faster revenue growth than 66% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)12 • $100M-$250M nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Assets

Up

$136,750,515

Up $3,864,174 (+2.9%) from 2023

Liabilities

Up

$80,716,960

Up $2,153,511 (+2.7%) from 2023

Net Assets

Up

$56,033,555

Up $1,710,663 (+3.1%) from 2023

Revenue

Up

$65,789,619

Up $4,075,699 (+6.6%) from 2023

Expenses

Up

$65,789,619

Up $4,075,699 (+6.6%) from 2023

Net Income

Flat

$0

Flat from 2023

Trend Graphs

Balance Sheet Trend

Grouped bars show assets, liabilities, and net assets across loaded filings.

$150M$100M$50M$0Assets 2011: $76,239,060Liabilities 2011: $48,630,600Net Assets 2011: $27,608,4602011Assets 2012: $79,090,334Liabilities 2012: $49,100,170Net Assets 2012: $29,990,1742012Assets 2013: $88,372,572Liabilities 2013: $53,999,042Net Assets 2013: $34,373,5302013Assets 2014: $93,894,140Liabilities 2014: $55,855,861Net Assets 2014: $38,038,2792014Assets 2015: $97,681,319Liabilities 2015: $59,055,116Net Assets 2015: $38,626,2032015Assets 2016: $103,172,726Liabilities 2016: $61,794,362Net Assets 2016: $41,378,3642016Assets 2017: $107,242,516Liabilities 2017: $64,281,661Net Assets 2017: $42,960,8552017Assets 2018: $111,373,545Liabilities 2018: $65,416,093Net Assets 2018: $45,957,4522018Assets 2019: $117,399,165Liabilities 2019: $69,164,773Net Assets 2019: $48,234,3922019Assets 2020: $119,856,022Liabilities 2020: $69,641,312Net Assets 2020: $50,214,7102020Assets 2021: $123,977,998Liabilities 2021: $71,494,819Net Assets 2021: $52,483,1792021Assets 2022: $129,515,239Liabilities 2022: $75,139,836Net Assets 2022: $54,375,4032022Assets 2023: $132,886,341Liabilities 2023: $78,563,449Net Assets 2023: $54,322,8922023Assets 2024: $136,750,515Liabilities 2024: $80,716,960Net Assets 2024: $56,033,5552024

Highlighted filing

2024

Assets$136,750,515
Liabilities$80,716,960
Net Assets$56,033,555

Operations Trend

Revenue, expenses, and net income by year, with the latest filing highlighted.

$80M$60M$40M$20M$0Revenue 2011: $51,130,526Expenses 2011: $48,650,485Net Income 2011: $2,480,0412011Revenue 2012: $50,062,988Expenses 2012: $47,827,741Net Income 2012: $2,235,2472012Revenue 2013: $54,905,700Expenses 2013: $54,905,700Net Income 2013: $02013Revenue 2014: $56,193,208Expenses 2014: $56,193,208Net Income 2014: $02014Revenue 2015: $51,998,397Expenses 2015: $51,998,397Net Income 2015: $02015Revenue 2016: $52,344,236Expenses 2016: $52,344,236Net Income 2016: $02016Revenue 2017: $49,391,862Expenses 2017: $49,391,862Net Income 2017: $02017Revenue 2018: $56,997,596Expenses 2018: $56,997,596Net Income 2018: $02018Revenue 2019: $54,653,011Expenses 2019: $54,653,011Net Income 2019: $02019Revenue 2020: $50,087,988Expenses 2020: $50,087,988Net Income 2020: $02020Revenue 2021: $57,120,734Expenses 2021: $57,120,734Net Income 2021: $02021Revenue 2022: $67,395,267Expenses 2022: $67,395,267Net Income 2022: $02022Revenue 2023: $61,713,920Expenses 2023: $61,713,920Net Income 2023: $02023Revenue 2024: $65,789,619Expenses 2024: $65,789,619Net Income 2024: $02024

Highlighted filing

2024

Revenue$65,789,619
Expenses$65,789,619
Net Income$0

Filings

Balance SheetOperations
YearAssetsLiabilitiesNet AssetsRevenueExpensesNet Income
2024Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$137$80.7$56.0$65.8$65.8$0.00
2023Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$133$78.6$54.3$61.7$61.7$0.00
2022Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$130$75.1$54.4$67.4$67.4$0.00
2021Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$124$71.5$52.5$57.1$57.1$0.00
2020Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$120$69.6$50.2$50.1$50.1$0.00
2019Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$117$69.2$48.2$54.7$54.7$0.00
2018Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$111$65.4$46.0$57.0$57.0$0.00
2017Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$107$64.3$43.0$49.4$49.4$0.00
2016Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$103$61.8$41.4$52.3$52.3$0.00
2015Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$97.7$59.1$38.6$52.0$52.0$0.00
2014Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$93.9$55.9$38.0$56.2$56.2$0.00
2013Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$88.4$54.0$34.4$54.9$54.9$0.00
2012Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$79.1$49.1$30.0$50.1$47.8$2.24
2011Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$76.2$48.6$27.6$51.1$48.7$2.48
Latest Filing Detail
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Filing Snapshot
Filing Period
Jan 1, 2024 to Dec 31, 2024
Signed
May 5, 2025
Return Version
2024v5.1
Gross Receipts
$65,789,619
Mission and Program Overview

Mission

Farmers recc's mission is to provide reliable and competitively priced energy services that will enhance the quality of life for our member-owners and commmunities.

The cooperative is a rural electric distribution system with a mission of providing reliable electric service to its member-owners in a cost effective manner.

Balance Sheet Detail
LineBeginningEndChange
Assets
Land, Buildings, and Equipment, Net$85,170,213$88,920,580▲ $3,750,367
Rtn Earn Endowment Incm Other Fnds$53,731,497$55,435,570▲ $1,704,073
Investments Other Securities$35,697,339$36,193,094▲ $495,755
Accounts Receivable$5,457,394$5,061,329▼ $396,065
Cash and Non-Interest-Bearing Accounts$2,044,654$2,628,721▲ $584,067
Inventories for Sale or Use$1,669,188$1,536,833▼ $132,355
Cap Stk Tr Prin Current Funds$591,395$597,985▲ $6,590
Prepaid Expenses and Deferred Charges$335,144$356,016▲ $20,872
Intangible Assets$366,442$320,637▼ $45,805
Pd in Cap Srpls Land Bldg Eqp Fund$0$0→ $0
Total Assets$132,886,341$136,750,515▲ $3,864,174
Other Assets Total$2,145,967$1,733,305▼ $412,662
Liabilities
Mortgage Notes Payable Secured by Investment Property$69,857,941$70,786,338▲ $928,397
Accounts Payable and Accrued Expenses$6,127,514$7,204,903▲ $1,077,389
Other Liabilities$2,577,994$2,725,719▲ $147,725
Total Liabilities$78,563,449$80,716,960▲ $2,153,511
Net Assets / Fund Balance
Total Net Assets Fund Balance$54,322,892$56,033,555▲ $1,710,663
Total Liabilities and Net Assets / Fund Balance$132,886,341$136,750,515▲ $3,864,174

Asset Categories

AssetBook ValueDepreciationBasis
Buildings$88,920,580$41,804,233$130,724,813
Other Securities$33,640,854--
Closely Held Equity Interests$2,552,240--
Compensation and Service Providers

Employees

NameTitleFull / Part TimeBaseOtherTotal
Tobias MossPresident & CEOFT$220,327$75,026$295,353
Scott LesterVice President, OperationsFT$138,191$54,978$193,169
Chuck BishopVice President, EngineerinFT$136,892$53,898$190,790
Steve MorrisonFepp Plant ManagerFT$124,172$56,106$180,278
Jennie PhelpsVice President, Finance &FT$135,755$36,944$172,699
Jason RiggsVice President, TechnologyFT$118,281$40,616$158,897
Corey JacksonVice President, Member & CFT$121,563$35,113$156,676
Randy LondonChairman-$17,650-$17,650
Brandi WilliamsSecretary Treasurer-$16,750-$16,750
Cornelius FaulknerVice ChairmanPT$15,850-$15,850
Ronnie SmithDirector-$15,400-$15,400
Paul HawkinsDirector-$14,350-$14,350
Randy SextonDirector-$14,050-$14,050
Cf Martin JrDirector-$13,750-$13,750

Highest Paid Contractors

ContractorServicesLocationCompensation
Townsend Tree ServiceRight Of Way ClearingPO BOX 7015, Muncie, IN 47308$1,400,332
Greatsouthwestern ConstructionConstruction Of Electric Plant1100 TOPEKA WAY, Castle Rock, CO 80108$831,957
Wa Kendall & Company LLCRight Of Way Clearing2736 MEADOW CHURCH RD, Duluth, GA 30097$588,540
Gds AssociatesElectric Plant Inspector1850 PARKWAY PLACE, Marietta, GA 30067$121,942
Sage Right Of Way INCRight Of Way ClearingPO BOX 2184, Lexington, KY 29071$114,130
Revenue and Support

Revenue Composition

Contributions and Grants
$0
Program Service Revenue
$64,641,392
Investment Income
$-8,454
Other Revenue
$1,156,681
Change in Net Assets
$0

Audited Revenue Reconciliation

Revenue per Audited Statements
$65,789,619
Revenue Not Reported on Financial Statements
$0
Revenue Not Reported on Form 990
$0
Total Revenue per Audited Statements
$65,789,619
Total Revenue per Form 990
$65,789,619
Expenses and Functional Allocation

Major Expense Lines

Line ItemAmount
Other Expenses$58,784,299
Salaries, Compensation, and Employee Benefits$5,308,408
Grants and Similar Amounts Paid$0
Professional Fundraising Fees$0
Total Fundraising Expense$0

Functional Expense Allocation

Line ItemProgramManagementFundraisingTotal
Depreciation Depletion$4,080,703--$4,080,703
Other Salaries and Wages$2,683,947--$2,683,947
Interest$2,465,901--$2,465,901
Benefits to Members$1,696,912--$1,696,912
Other Expenses$1,023,702--$1,023,702
Other Employee Benefits$1,009,735--$1,009,735
Office Expenses$1,001,203--$1,001,203
All Other Expenses$905,961--$905,961
Pension Plan Contributions$905,800--$905,800
Payroll Taxes$380,799--$380,799
Current Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees$328,127--$328,127
Advertising$221,014--$221,014
Insurance$149,128--$149,128
Conferences and Meetings$97,505--$97,505
Fees for Services Legal$25,156--$25,156
Fees for Services Accounting$23,725--$23,725
Total Functional Expenses$65,789,619$0$0$65,789,619

Audited Expense Reconciliation

Line ItemAmount
Expenses Not Reported on Financial Statements$0
Expenses Not Reported on Form 990$0
Expenses per Audited Statements$0
Total Expenses per Audited Statements$0
Total Expenses per Form 990$0
Fundraising, Events, and Gaming
Fundraising activities
No
Gaming activities
No
Professional fundraiser used
No

Fundraising and Gaming Totals

Line ItemAmount
Professional Fundraising Fees$0
Political and Lobbying Activity
Political campaign activity
No
Subject to proxy tax
No
Insider Transactions and Loans

Interested-Person Transactions

Interested PartyRelationshipDescriptionShared RevenueAmount
Todd StephensSon in Law of Board Chair Randy London.SalaryNo$100,452
Debt and Bond Financing

Other Reported Liabilities

LiabilityAmount
Customer Deposits$1,466,820
Opeb$791,038
Customer Advances for Construction$467,861
Governance and Compliance

Governance Checklist

Compiled or reviewed by an accountant
No
Annual disclosure for covered persons
Yes
Audit committee
Yes
Backup withholding compliance
Yes
Business relationship with 35% controlled entity
No
Business relationship with family members
Yes
Business relationship with organization members
No
Material changes to governing documents
No
Compensation from other sources disclosed
No
CEO compensation reviewed
Yes
Other officer compensation reviewed
Yes
Conflict-of-interest policy
Yes
Audited financial statements prepared
Yes
Key decisions subject to board approval
No
Management duties delegated
No

Governance Explanations

Form 990, Part VI, Section A, Line 6

The cooperative has members. A membership fee is required to establish service. A member can have multiple electric services.

Form 990, Part VI, Section A, Line 7A

Members of the governing board are elected. Ballots are mailed to each member to be completed. An independent accounting firm then counts the votes received from the members.

Form 990, Part VI, Section B, Line 11B

The 990 tax return is reviewed by executive officers and then reviewed by the board of directors.

Form 990, Part VI, Section B, Line 12C

The cooperative has a conflict of interest policy and requires, annually, all directors, management and employees to complete a written acknowledgment of the policy and disclose any potential conflicts of interest. The acknowledgments are reviewed by management and the board of directors to check for policy conflicts that may need corrections.

Form 990, Part VI, Section B, Line 15

The board of directors annually appraises the performance of the president & ceo and makes salary adjustments within an established salary range of the position. The board reviews the appropriateness of the salary on a regular basis with the assistance of an independent outside consultant. Likewise, the president & ceo administers all salary adjustments for empoyees withiin established salary ranges for each position. The employees' wage and benefit plan is reviewed reguarly by the board of directors and president & ceo, with the assistance of an independent consultant. Position descriptions coupled with performance criteria and results are the determining factors for payroll adjustments.

Form 990, Part VI, Section C, Line 19

The cooperative's financial statements are included in an annual report that is published in a magazine that is received by the cooperative's members. The annual report is also provided to anyone attending the cooperative's annual meeting. Governing documents, financial statements, conflict of interest policy, form 990, etc...are available upon request.

Filing and Contact Details

Filer

Filer Name
Farmers Rural Electric Cooperative
EIN
61-0189417
Phone
2706512191
Address
504 SOUTH BROADWAY, GLASGOW, KY 42141

Signing Officer

Name
Tobias B Moss
Title
President & CEO
Phone
2706512191
Signed
2025-05-05
Discuss with paid preparer
Yes

Organization Details

Principal Officer
Tobias B Moss
Formed
1938
Legal Domicile
Ky
Voting Board Members
7
Independent Board Members
4
Employees
68
Volunteers
0

Preparer

Firm
Campbell Myers & Rutledge Pllc
Address
410 SOUTH BROADWAY, GLASGOW, KY 42141
Preparer
Robert Brent Billingsley
Phone
2706512163
Supplemental Narrative

Additional Explanations

FORM 990, PART XI, LINE 9:

Refunds of capital credits -762. Margins allocated to members 1,696,912. Other equities 14,513.

Financial Statement Notes

PART X, LINE 2:

The cooperative follows the recognition requirements for uncertain income tax positions as required by generally accepted accounting principles. The cooperative has no tax position at december 31, 2020 for which the ultimate deductibility is highly certain but for which there is uncertainty about the timing of such deductibility. The cooperative's policy is to classify income tax related interest and penalties in interest expense and other expenses, respectively. No such interest or penalties were recognized during the periods presented. The cooperative files income tax returns in the u.s. Federal jurisdiction, and various state and local jurisdictions. The cooperative is no longer subject to u.s. Federal, state and local income tax examinations by tax authorities for years before 2018.

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