Civic Intelligence

The Lvac Theatre Guild Inc

EIN 58-1860457 • 501(c)3 • Valdosta, GA

Profile

The primary mission of the lvac theatre guild, inc. Is to promote the performing arts by performing theatrical works for the residents and visitors to lowndes county, georgia.

P O Box 123Valdosta, GA 31603-0123

www.theatreguildvaldosta.com

Siviq Scores

Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.

Liabilities / Assets

59th percentile

0.00x

Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Liabilities / Revenue

61st percentile

0.00x

Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Net Margin

65th percentile

11%

Higher net margin than 65% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Top Officer Pay

84th percentile

$0

Higher top officer pay than 84% of similar nonprofits.

Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2023

Asset Growth

60th percentile

3.5%

Faster asset growth than 60% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Revenue Growth

31st percentile

-20%

Faster revenue growth than 31% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Balance Sheet
Liabilities / Assets59th percentile

Assets

Up

$381,618

Up $12,768 (+3.5%) from 2023

Liabilities

-

No earlier filing loaded for comparison.

Net Assets

Up

$381,618

Up $12,768 (+3.5%) from 2023

Operations
Liabilities / Revenue61st percentileNet Margin65th percentile

Revenue

Down

$117,579

Down $29,990 (-20%) from 2023

Expenses

Down

$104,810

Down $3,839 (-3.5%) from 2023

Net Income

Down

$12,769

Down $26,151 (-67%) from 2023

Trend Graphs

Balance Sheet Trend

Asset Growth60th percentile

Grouped bars show assets, liabilities, and net assets across loaded filings.

$400K$300K$200K$100K$0Assets 2014: $134,720Net Assets 2014: $134,7202014Assets 2015: $191,267Liabilities 2015: $16,066Net Assets 2015: $175,2012015Assets 2016: $181,193Net Assets 2016: $181,1932016Assets 2017: $260,086Net Assets 2017: $260,0862017Assets 2018: $249,235Net Assets 2018: $249,2352018Assets 2019: $242,788Net Assets 2019: $242,7882019Assets 2020: $237,888Net Assets 2020: $237,8882020Assets 2021: $339,091Net Assets 2021: $339,0912021Assets 2022: $329,929Net Assets 2022: $329,9292022Assets 2023: $368,850Net Assets 2023: $368,8502023Assets 2024: $381,618Net Assets 2024: $381,6182024

Highlighted filing

2024

Assets$381,618
Liabilities-
Net Assets$381,618
Open 2024 Filing

Operations Trend

Revenue Growth31st percentile

Revenue, expenses, and net income by year, with the latest filing highlighted.

$200K$150K$100K$50K$0-$50KRevenue 2014: $71,802Expenses 2014: $79,213Net Income 2014: -$7,4112014Revenue 2015: $115,393Expenses 2015: $74,912Net Income 2015: $40,4812015Revenue 2016: $65,656Expenses 2016: $59,664Net Income 2016: $5,9922016Revenue 2017: $143,933Expenses 2017: $65,040Net Income 2017: $78,8932017Revenue 2018: $80,501Expenses 2018: $91,352Net Income 2018: -$10,8512018Revenue 2019: $80,295Expenses 2019: $86,742Net Income 2019: -$6,4472019Revenue 2020: $62,153Expenses 2020: $67,053Net Income 2020: -$4,9002020Revenue 2021: $181,629Expenses 2021: $80,426Net Income 2021: $101,2032021Revenue 2022: $88,183Expenses 2022: $97,345Net Income 2022: -$9,1622022Revenue 2023: $147,569Expenses 2023: $108,649Net Income 2023: $38,9202023Revenue 2024: $117,579Expenses 2024: $104,810Net Income 2024: $12,7692024

Highlighted filing

2024

Revenue$117,579
Expenses$104,810
Net Income$12,769
Open 2024 Filing

Filings

Most recent year

2024 • Form 990EZDetailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.

Open filing
Assets
$381,618
Liabilities
-
Net assets
$381,618
Revenue
$117,579
Expenses
$104,810
Net income
$12,769
Balance SheetOperations
YearAssetsLiabilitiesNet AssetsRevenueExpensesNet Income
2024Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$3.82$3.82$1.18$1.05$0.13
2023Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$3.69$3.69$1.48$1.09$0.39
2022Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$3.30$3.30$0.88$0.97$0.09
2021Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$3.39$3.39$1.82$0.80$1.01
2020Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$2.38$2.38$0.62$0.67$0.05
2019Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$2.43$2.43$0.80$0.87$0.06
2018Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$2.49$2.49$0.81$0.91$0.11
2017Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$2.60$2.60$1.44$0.65$0.79
2016Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$1.81$1.81$0.66$0.60$0.06
2015Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$1.91$0.16$1.75$1.15$0.75$0.40
2014Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$1.35$1.35$0.72$0.79$0.07
Latest Filing Detail
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Filing Snapshot
Filing Period
Jul 1, 2023 to Jun 30, 2024
Signed
Nov 21, 2024
Return Version
2023v5.0
Gross Receipts
$117,579
Mission and Program Overview

Mission

The primary mission of the lvac theatre guild, inc. Is to promote the performing arts by performing theatrical works for the residents and visitors to lowndes county, georgia.

Program Services

DescriptionGrantsExpenses
THE LVAC THEATRE GUILD, INC. PROMOTED THE PERFORMING ARTS BY PERFORMING THEATRICAL WORKS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO LOWNDES COUNTY, GEORGIA.-$104,810
Compensation and Service Providers
Top Officer Pay84th percentile

Employees

NameTitleFull / Part TimeBaseOtherTotal
PATTI COOK ROBERTSONPresident-$0--
BEN HAWLEYVice Preside-$0--
JUNE BELLSecretary-$0--
TASHA CONRADTreasurer-$0--
JEANNIE GUPTONDirector-$0--
MICAIAH BARAJASDirector-$0--
ALAN SANDERSONDirector-$0--
KASSANDRA MORRISDirector-$0--
LINDA STIKKELDirector-$0--
Filing and Contact Details

Filer

Filer Name
The Lvac Theatre Guild Inc
EIN
58-1860457
Phone
2292478243
Address
P O BOX 123, VALDOSTA, GA 31603-0123

Signing Officer

Name
Patti Cook Robertson
Title
President
Phone
2292478243
Signed
2024-11-21
Discuss with paid preparer
Yes

Preparer

Firm
Brd Valdosta
Address
3006 N PATTERSON ST, VALDOSTA, GA 31602
Preparer
John K Dukes Jr
Phone
2292440327
Supplemental Narrative

Additional Explanations

Form 990-ez, Part I, Line 16

“Expenses insurance 8,757 tax preparation fees 955 lighting and show expense 20,873 bank charges 150 tix ticketing program 4,593 merchant fee 10,881 publicity 3,132 show card 6,991 credit card charges 3,110 total 59,442”

Form 990-ez, Part III

“The primary mission of the lvac theatre guild, inc. Is to promote the performing arts by performing theatrical works for the residents and visitors to lowndes county, georgia.”

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