Civic Intelligence

There Is More Ministries Inc Living Waters

EIN 58-1268091 • 501(c)3 • Balsam Grove, NC

Profile

Prayer groups, retreats, seminars and youth camps

7935 Parkway RoadBalsam Grove, NC 28708

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Siviq Scores

Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.

Liabilities / Assets

46th percentile

0.01x

Higher debt load relative to assets than 46% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • $500k-$1M nonprofits • Source year 2024

Liabilities / Revenue

56th percentile

0.03x

Higher debt load relative to revenue than 56% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • $500k-$1M nonprofits • Source year 2024

Net Margin

14th percentile

-24%

Higher net margin than 14% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • $500k-$1M nonprofits • Source year 2024

Top Officer Pay

61st percentile

$26,687

Higher top officer pay than 61% of similar nonprofits.

Top officer pay equals 10.1% of source-year revenue.

501(c)3 • $500k-$1M nonprofits • Source year 2024

Asset Growth

20th percentile

-11%

Faster asset growth than 20% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • $500k-$1M nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Revenue Growth

14th percentile

-26%

Faster revenue growth than 14% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • $500k-$1M nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Balance Sheet
Liabilities / Assets46th percentile

Assets

Down

$784,661

Down $95,305 (-11%) from 2023

Liabilities

Down

$7,046

Down $1,405 (-17%) from 2023

Net Assets

Down

$777,615

Down $93,900 (-11%) from 2023

Operations
Liabilities / Revenue56th percentileNet Margin14th percentile

Revenue

Down

$264,277

Down $94,312 (-26%) from 2023

Expenses

Down

$328,022

Down $55,689 (-15%) from 2023

Net Income

Down

-$63,745

Down $38,623 (-154%) from 2023

Trend Graphs

Balance Sheet Trend

Asset Growth20th percentile

Grouped bars show assets, liabilities, and net assets across loaded filings.

$1.5M$1.0M$500K$0Assets 2011: $880,518Liabilities 2011: $522Net Assets 2011: $879,9962011Assets 2012: $833,604Liabilities 2012: $331Net Assets 2012: $833,2732012Assets 2013: $1,080,448Liabilities 2013: $354Net Assets 2013: $1,080,0942013Assets 2014: $1,162,960Liabilities 2014: $60,418Net Assets 2014: $1,102,5422014Assets 2015: $1,113,279Liabilities 2015: $38,140Net Assets 2015: $1,075,1392015Assets 2016: $1,102,190Liabilities 2016: $347Net Assets 2016: $1,101,8432016Assets 2017: $1,037,890Liabilities 2017: $232Net Assets 2017: $1,037,6582017Assets 2018: $962,740Liabilities 2018: $589Net Assets 2018: $962,1512018Assets 2019: $903,599Liabilities 2019: $570Net Assets 2019: $903,0292019Assets 2020: $953,248Liabilities 2020: $591Net Assets 2020: $952,6572020Assets 2021: $916,330Liabilities 2021: $2,788Net Assets 2021: $913,5422021Assets 2022: $940,954Liabilities 2022: $10,569Net Assets 2022: $930,3852022Assets 2023: $879,966Liabilities 2023: $8,451Net Assets 2023: $871,5152023Assets 2024: $784,661Liabilities 2024: $7,046Net Assets 2024: $777,6152024

Highlighted filing

2024

Assets$784,661
Liabilities$7,046
Net Assets$777,615
Open 2024 Filing

Operations Trend

Revenue Growth14th percentile

Revenue, expenses, and net income by year, with the latest filing highlighted.

$600K$400K$200K$0-$200KExpenses 2011: $262,9302011Revenue 2012: $167,353Expenses 2012: $214,077Net Income 2012: -$46,7242012Expenses 2013: $207,5142013Revenue 2014: $235,068Expenses 2014: $216,925Net Income 2014: $18,1432014Revenue 2015: $228,535Expenses 2015: $257,842Net Income 2015: -$29,3072015Revenue 2016: $269,168Expenses 2016: $242,463Net Income 2016: $26,7052016Revenue 2017: $201,104Expenses 2017: $265,546Net Income 2017: -$64,4422017Revenue 2018: $209,800Expenses 2018: $285,306Net Income 2018: -$75,5062018Revenue 2019: $227,873Expenses 2019: $286,996Net Income 2019: -$59,1232019Revenue 2020: $256,477Expenses 2020: $255,357Net Income 2020: $1,1202020Revenue 2021: $321,046Expenses 2021: $359,149Net Income 2021: -$38,1032021Revenue 2022: $459,734Expenses 2022: $378,476Net Income 2022: $81,2582022Revenue 2023: $358,589Expenses 2023: $383,711Net Income 2023: -$25,1222023Revenue 2024: $264,277Expenses 2024: $328,022Net Income 2024: -$63,7452024

Highlighted filing

2024

Revenue$264,277
Expenses$328,022
Net Income-$63,745
Open 2024 Filing

Filings

Most recent year

2024 • Form 990Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.

Open filing
Assets
$784,661
Liabilities
$7,046
Net assets
$777,615
Revenue
$264,277
Expenses
$328,022
Net income
-$63,745
Balance SheetOperations
YearAssetsLiabilitiesNet AssetsRevenueExpensesNet Income
2024Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.$0.78$0.01$0.78$0.26$0.33$0.06
2023XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$0.88$0.01$0.87$0.36$0.38$0.03
2022XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$0.94$0.01$0.93$0.46$0.38$0.08
2021XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$0.92$0.00$0.91$0.32$0.36$0.04
2020XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$0.95$0.00$0.95$0.26$0.26$0.00
2019Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.90$0.00$0.90$0.23$0.29$0.06
2018Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.96$0.00$0.96$0.21$0.29$0.08
2017Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$1.04$0.00$1.04$0.20$0.27$0.06
2016Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$1.10$0.00$1.10$0.27$0.24$0.03
2015Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$1.11$0.04$1.08$0.23$0.26$0.03
2014Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$1.16$0.06$1.10$0.24$0.22$0.02
2013Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.$1.08$0.00$1.08$0.21
2012Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.83$0.00$0.83$0.17$0.21$0.05
2011Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.$0.88$0.00$0.88$0.26
Latest Filing Detail
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Filing Snapshot
Filing Period
Sep 1, 2023 to Aug 31, 2024
Signed
Nov 3, 2025
Return Version
2023v6.0
Gross Receipts
$264,277
Mission and Program Overview

Mission

Prayer groups, retreats, seminars and youth camps

Balance Sheet Detail
LineBeginningEndChange
Assets
Land, Buildings, and Equipment, Net$818,772$463,096▼ $355,676
Cash and Non-Interest-Bearing Accounts$46,257$316,540▲ $270,283
Accounts Receivable-$5,025-
Savings and Temporary Cash Investments$0--
Total Assets$879,966$784,661▼ $95,305
Other Assets Total$14,937--
Liabilities
Accounts Payable and Accrued Expenses$8,451$7,046▼ $1,405
Total Liabilities$8,451$7,046▼ $1,405
Net Assets / Fund Balance
Net Assets With Donor Restrictions$783,495$689,595▼ $93,900
Net Assets Without Donor Restrictions$88,020$88,020→ $0
Total Net Assets Fund Balance$871,515$777,615▼ $93,900
Total Liabilities and Net Assets / Fund Balance$879,966$784,661▼ $95,305

Asset Categories

AssetBook ValueDepreciationBasis
Buildings$371,179$1,090,277-
Other Land Buildings$0$143,509-
Land$89,922--
Equipment$884$57,790-
Leasehold Improvements$1,111$19,434-
Compensation and Service Providers
Top Officer Pay61st percentile

Employees

NameTitleBaseTotal
Brian MacdonaldAdministrator$26,687$26,687

Board Members and Trustees

NameTitle
Catherine ToalPresident
Miley AdamsVice-president
Beth CollopDirector
David HughesDirector
Dennis BanksDirector
Kathy PalmerDirector
Larry LongDirector
Richard LewisDirector
Sam TurkDirector
Stacy OverbayDirector
Miles AdamsSecretary/treasurer
Revenue and Support

Revenue Composition

Contributions and Grants
$264,274
Program Service Revenue
$0
Investment Income
$3
Other Revenue
$0
All Other Contributions
$264,274
Change in Net Assets
$-63,745
Expenses and Functional Allocation

Major Expense Lines

Line ItemAmount
Other Expenses$265,601
Salaries, Compensation, and Employee Benefits$62,421
Grants and Similar Amounts Paid$0
Professional Fundraising Fees$0
Total Fundraising Expense$0

Functional Expense Allocation

Line ItemProgramManagementFundraisingTotal
Conferences and Meetings$112,784$0$0$112,784
Occupancy$65,956$0$0$65,956
Other Salaries and Wages$62,421$0$0$62,421
Insurance$55,017$0$0$55,017
Office Expenses$17,554$0$0$17,554
Travel$14,276$0$0$14,276
Information Technology$14$0$0$14
Total Functional Expenses$328,022$0$0$328,022
Fundraising, Events, and Gaming
Fundraising activities
No
Gaming activities
No
Professional fundraiser used
No

Fundraising and Gaming Totals

Line ItemAmount
Professional Fundraising Fees$0
Political and Lobbying Activity
Political campaign activity
No
Lobbying activity
No
Subject to proxy tax
No
Governance and Compliance

Governance Checklist

Compiled or reviewed by an accountant
No
Backup withholding compliance
No
Business relationship with 35% controlled entity
No
Business relationship with family members
No
Business relationship with organization members
No
Material changes to governing documents
No
Compensation from other sources disclosed
No
CEO compensation reviewed
No
Other officer compensation reviewed
Yes
Conflict-of-interest policy
No
Audited financial statements prepared
No
Key decisions subject to board approval
No
Management duties delegated
No
Filing and Contact Details

Filer

Filer Name
There Is More Ministries Inc
EIN
58-1268091
Phone
8288846350
Address
7935 PARKWAY ROAD, BALSAM GROVE, NC 28708
Doing Business As
Living Waters

Signing Officer

Name
Catherine Toal
Title
President
Phone
8288846350
Signed
2025-11-03
Discuss with paid preparer
Yes

Organization Details

Formed
1984
Legal Domicile
Nc
Voting Board Members
12
Independent Board Members
12
Employees
2
Volunteers
3

Preparer

Firm
Robert Worley CPA
Address
95 GIBSON DR, CHRISTIANSBURG, VA 24073
Preparer
Robert Worley
Phone
5409989200
Supplemental Narrative

Additional Explanations

Pt VI, Line 11B

“Form 990 is reviewed by two members of the bod”

Pt VI, Line 15B

“All compensation is reviewed annually and recommendations are reviewed and approved/disapproved by the bod”

Pt VI, Line 19

“The organizations governing documents and financial statements are maintained at the office of the organization and are available to the public upon request.”

Pt XI

“Line 9 - reconciling adjustment”

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This appendix keeps the raw XML leaves available for debugging and edge-case review. The human report above is the primary experience.

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