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Me and My Shadow Dog Rescue Inc
EIN 47-1061844 • 501(c)3 • Winter Park, FL
Profile
To rescue, rehabilitate, and re-home dogs in county facilities subject to the high risk of euthanasia, dogs surrendered by their owners due to difficult and personal circumstances, and dogs subject to danger, abuse, and/or neglect.
Siviq Scores
Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.
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Liabilities / Revenue
62nd percentile
Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.
Net Margin
34th percentile
Higher net margin than 34% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
81st percentile
Higher top officer pay than 81% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
10th percentile
Faster asset growth than 10% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
6th percentile
Faster revenue growth than 6% of similar nonprofits.
Balance Sheet
Assets
Down$0
Down $16 (-100%) from 2019
Liabilities
Flat$0
Flat from 2019
Net Assets
Down$0
Down $16 (-100%) from 2019
Revenue
Down$231
Down $4,261 (-95%) from 2019
Expenses
Down$247
Down $5,398 (-96%) from 2019
Net Income
Up-$16
Up $1,137 (+99%) from 2019
Trend Graphs
Filings
Most recent year
2020 • Form 990EZDetailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.
- Assets
- $0
- Liabilities
- $0
- Net assets
- $0
- Revenue
- $231
- Expenses
- $247
- Net income
- -$16
Latest Filing Detail
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Filing Snapshot
- Filing Period
- Jan 1, 2020 to Dec 31, 2020
- Signed
- Nov 21, 2021
- Return Version
- 2020v4.0
- Gross Receipts
- $231
Mission and Program Overview
Mission
To rescue, rehabilitate, and re-home dogs in county facilities subject to the high risk of euthanasia, dogs surrendered by their owners due to difficult and personal circumstances, and dogs subject to danger, abuse, and/or neglect. Unfortunately this past year, the founder went through chemotherapy, surgery, and radiation treatment for breast cancer which impacted the activities of the rescue group.
To rescue, rehabilitate, and re-home dogs in county facilities subject to the high risk of euthanasia, dogs surrendered by their owners due to difficult and personal circumstances, and dogs subject to danger, abuse, and/or neglect. Unfortunately this past year, the founder continued to struggle from the impact of chemotherapy, surgery, and radiation treatment for breast cancer which impacted the activities of the rescue group. The decision was made to close the rescue group in 2020.
Program Services
| Description | Grants | Expenses |
|---|---|---|
| In 2018 our founder was undergoing treatment for breast cancer. Activities were centered around continuing care and treatment of the dogs in foster care. | $0 | $247 |
Compensation and Service Providers
Employees
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| JULIE GALANTE | President | - | $0 | - | - |
| DONNA GALANTE | Treasurer | - | $0 | - | - |
| Roxanne Davis | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
Filing and Contact Details
Filer
- Filer Name
- Me and My Shadow Dog Rescue
- EIN
- 47-1061844
- Phone
- 4077180705
- Address
- 300 N New York AVenue, Winter Park, FL 32790
Signing Officer
- Name
- Donna Galante
- Title
- Treasurer
- Phone
- 4072528070
- Signed
- 2021-11-21
Supplemental Narrative
Additional Explanations
Form 990-EZ, Part I, Line 16
“Vet bills and meds for last of our fosters”
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