Liabilities / Assets
92nd percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 92% of similar nonprofits.
EIN 36-3930563 • 501(c)3 • Waukegan, IL
Profile
The primary purpose of the program serves men over the age of 25 who have been incarcerated as a result of crimes committed because of their addiction.
Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.
Liabilities / Assets
92nd percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 92% of similar nonprofits.
Liabilities / Revenue
95th percentile
Higher debt load relative to revenue than 95% of similar nonprofits.
Net Margin
34th percentile
Higher net margin than 34% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
Score unavailable
No filing with officer rows is available for this organization yet.
Asset Growth
43rd percentile
Faster asset growth than 43% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
85th percentile
Faster revenue growth than 85% of similar nonprofits.
Assets
Down$137,319
Down $8,988 (-6.1%) from 2015
Liabilities
Down$122,046
Down $836 (-0.7%) from 2015
Net Assets
Down$15,273
Down $8,151 (-35%) from 2015
Revenue
Up$116,165
Up $38,278 (+49%) from 2015
Expenses
Up$124,317
Up $33,915 (+38%) from 2015
Net Income
Up-$8,152
Up $4,363 (+35%) from 2015
Most recent year
2016 • Form 990EZDetailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.
Primary purpose of program offers a transitional housing program providing a fresh start to men who have been incarcerated and ex-offenders.
The primary purpose of the program is to offer transitional housing and a provide a fresh start to ex-offenders and men who have been incarcerated.
| Description | Grants | Expenses |
|---|---|---|
| GRANT PROVIDED BY THE STATE OF IL DASA TO PROVIDE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR EX OFFENDERS RELEASED FROM PRISON GIVING THESE MEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REHIBILITATED AND FUNCTIONAL IN SOCIETY. SUCCESSFULLY REACHED A NUMBER OF ADDICTS AND EX OFFENDERS IN THE LAKE COUNTY AREA. | $48,129 | $74,529 |
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| HARRY STACKHOUSE | President | FT | $0 | - | - |
| DEBORAH STACKHOUSE | Vice President | PT | $0 | - | - |
| TYRON COPELAND | Treasurer | PT | $0 | - | - |
| KIM GATES | Secretary | FT | $0 | - | - |
| JOHN RAVENAIGH | Director | PT | $0 | - | - |
| SCOTT MELCHER | Director | PT | $0 | - | - |
| HOWARD GOLDBERG | Director | PT | $0 | - | - |
“1) other expenses resident needs amount 1398 2) other expenses telephone amount 2880 3) other expenses program activities amount 38603 4) other expenses program supplies and materials amount 3659 5) other expenses office supplies amount 331 6) other expenses utilities amount 6608 7) other expenses advertising amount 407 8) other expenses depreciation amount 11317 9) other expenses bank service charges amount 60 10) other expenses insurance amount 73 11) other expenses automobile expenses amount 1297 12) other expenses repairs and maintenance amount 228 13) other expenses license and permit amount 111 14) other expenses food amount 777 15) other expenses dues and subscriptions amount 444 16) other expenses penalty amount 596”
“1) description accounts payable boy amount 3739 eoy amount 7500 2) description resident deposits boy amount 0 eoy amount 1220 3) description payroll liabilities boy amount 4798 eoy amount 5657 4) description loan payable boy amount 15400 eoy amount 17700 5) description notes payable boy amount 98945 eoy amount 89969”
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| IRS990EZ/BooksInCareOfDetail/USAddress/StateAbbreviationCd | 0 | IL |
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| IRS990EZ/CashSavingsAndInvestmentsGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 5116 |
| IRS990EZ/ChgMadeToOrgnzngDocNotRptInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ContributionsGiftsGrantsEtcAmt | 0 | 116165 |
| IRS990EZ/DonorAdvisedFndsInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/EngagedInExcessBenefitTransInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ExcessOrDeficitForYearAmt | 0 | -8152 |
| IRS990EZ/FeesAndOtherPymtToIndCntrctAmt | 0 | 7488 |
| IRS990EZ/ForeignFinancialAccountInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/ForeignOfficeInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/Form1120PolFiledInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/Form720FiledInd | 0 | 0 |
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| IRS990EZ/Form990TotalAssetsGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 137319 |
| IRS990EZ/GrossReceiptsAmt | 0 | 116165 |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIIIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIInd | 0 | X |
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| IRS990EZ/LandAndBuildingsGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 217453 |
| IRS990EZ/LoansToFromOfficersAmt | 0 | 14700 |
| IRS990EZ/MadeLoansToFromOfficersInd | 0 | 1 |
| IRS990EZ/MethodOfAccountingCashInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/NetAssetsOrFundBalancesBOYAmt | 0 | 23425 |
| IRS990EZ/NetAssetsOrFundBalancesEOYAmt | 0 | 15273 |
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| IRS990EZ/OccupancyRentUtltsAndMaintAmt | 0 | 6326 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 0 | 50 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 1 | 15 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 2 | 15 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 3 | 50 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 4 | 15 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 5 | 15 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 6 | 15 |
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| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 1 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 2 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 3 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 4 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 5 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 6 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 1 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 2 | 0 |
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| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 4 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/EmployeeBenefitProgramAmt | 5 | 0 |
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| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 1 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 2 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 3 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 4 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 5 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/ExpenseAccountOtherAllwncAmt | 6 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 0 | HARRY STACKHOUSE |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 1 | DEBORAH STACKHOUSE |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 2 | TYRON COPELAND |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 3 | KIM GATES |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 4 | JOHN RAVENAIGH |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 5 | SCOTT MELCHER |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 6 | HOWARD GOLDBERG |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 0 | PRESIDENT |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 1 | VICE PRESIDENT |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 2 | TREASURER |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 3 | SECRETARY |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 4 | DIRECTOR |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 5 | DIRECTOR |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 6 | DIRECTOR |
| IRS990EZ/OperateHospitalInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/Organization501c3Ind | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/OrganizationDissolvedEtcInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OrganizationHadUBIInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OtherExpensesTotalAmt | 0 | 68789 |
| IRS990EZ/PartVIHghstPdCntrctProfSrvcTxt | 0 | NONE |
| IRS990EZ/PartVIOfCompOfHghstPdEmplTxt | 0 | NONE |
| IRS990EZ/PoliticalCampaignActyInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/PrimaryExemptPurposeTxt | 0 | THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO OFFER TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND A PROVIDE A FRESH START TO EX-OFFENDERS AND MEN WHO HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED. |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/DescriptionProgramSrvcAccomTxt | 0 | GRANT PROVIDED BY THE STATE OF IL DASA TO PROVIDE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR EX OFFENDERS RELEASED FROM PRISON GIVING THESE MEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REHIBILITATED AND FUNCTIONAL IN SOCIETY. SUCCESSFULLY REACHED A NUMBER OF ADDICTS AND EX OFFENDERS IN THE LAKE COUNTY AREA. |
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| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/ProgramServiceExpensesAmt | 0 | 74529 |
| IRS990EZ/ProhibitedTaxShelterTransInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/RelatedOrganizationCtrlEntInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/SalariesOtherCompEmplBnftAmt | 0 | 41714 |
| IRS990EZ/ScheduleBNotRequiredInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/SubjectToProxyTaxInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/SumOfTotalLiabilitiesGrp/BOYAmt | 0 | 122882 |
| IRS990EZ/SumOfTotalLiabilitiesGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 122046 |
| IRS990EZ/TanningServicesProvidedInd | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalExpensesAmt | 0 | 124317 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalProgramServiceExpensesAmt | 0 | 74529 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalRevenueAmt | 0 | 116165 |
| IRS990EZ/TransactionWithControlEntInd | 0 | 0 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/DistributableAmountGrp/CYDistributableAsAdjustedAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/DistributableAmountGrp/CYGreaterAdjustedMinimumAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/DistributableAmountGrp/CYIncomeTaxImposedPYAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/DistributableAmountGrp/CYPct85AdjustedNetIncomeAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/DistributableAmountGrp/CYTotalMinAstDistributableAmt | 0 | 0 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContriRcvd170Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus2YearsAmt | 0 | 76995 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContriRcvd170Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus3YearsAmt | 0 | 67716 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContriRcvd170Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 109199 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GiftsGrantsContriRcvd170Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 447962 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalCalendarYear170Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 77887 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalCalendarYear170Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 447962 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportAmt | 0 | 447962 |
| IRS990ScheduleL/LoansBtwnOrgInterestedPrsnGrp/BalanceDueAmt | 0 | 14700 |
| IRS990ScheduleL/LoansBtwnOrgInterestedPrsnGrp/BoardOrCommitteeApprovalInd | 0 | 1 |
| IRS990ScheduleL/LoansBtwnOrgInterestedPrsnGrp/BusinessName/BusinessNameLine1Txt | 0 | HARRY STACKHOUSE |
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| IRS990ScheduleL/LoansBtwnOrgInterestedPrsnGrp/OriginalPrincipalAmt | 0 | 15400 |
| IRS990ScheduleL/LoansBtwnOrgInterestedPrsnGrp/WrittenAgreementInd | 0 | 1 |
| IRS990ScheduleL/TotalBalanceDueAmt | 0 | 14700 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 0 | 1) OTHER EXPENSES RESIDENT NEEDS AMOUNT 1398 2) OTHER EXPENSES TELEPHONE AMOUNT 2880 3) OTHER EXPENSES PROGRAM ACTIVITIES AMOUNT 38603 4) OTHER EXPENSES PROGRAM SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AMOUNT 3659 5) OTHER EXPENSES OFFICE SUPPLIES AMOUNT 331 6) OTHER EXPENSES UTILITIES AMOUNT 6608 7) OTHER EXPENSES ADVERTISING AMOUNT 407 8) OTHER EXPENSES DEPRECIATION AMOUNT 11317 9) OTHER EXPENSES BANK SERVICE CHARGES AMOUNT 60 10) OTHER EXPENSES INSURANCE AMOUNT 73 11) OTHER EXPENSES AUTOMOBILE EXPENSES AMOUNT 1297 12) OTHER EXPENSES REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AMOUNT 228 13) OTHER EXPENSES LICENSE AND PERMIT AMOUNT 111 14) OTHER EXPENSES FOOD AMOUNT 777 15) OTHER EXPENSES DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS AMOUNT 444 16) OTHER EXPENSES PENALTY AMOUNT 596 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 1 | 1) DESCRIPTION ACCOUNTS PAYABLE BOY AMOUNT 3739 EOY AMOUNT 7500 2) DESCRIPTION RESIDENT DEPOSITS BOY AMOUNT 0 EOY AMOUNT 1220 3) DESCRIPTION PAYROLL LIABILITIES BOY AMOUNT 4798 EOY AMOUNT 5657 4) DESCRIPTION LOAN PAYABLE BOY AMOUNT 15400 EOY AMOUNT 17700 5) DESCRIPTION NOTES PAYABLE BOY AMOUNT 98945 EOY AMOUNT 89969 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 0 | PART I, LINE 16 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 1 | PART II, LINE 26 |
| ReturnHeader/BuildTS | 0 | 2018-03-14 21:41:22Z |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/PersonNm | 0 | HARRY STACKHOUSE |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/PersonTitleTxt | 0 | PRESIDENT |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/PhoneNum | 0 | 8476621380 |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/SignatureDt | 0 | 2017-10-04 |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/BusinessName/BusinessNameLine1Txt | 0 | ROPE INC |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/BusinessNameControlTxt | 0 | ROPE |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/EIN | 0 | 363930563 |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/PhoneNum | 0 | 8476621380 |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/AddressLine1Txt | 0 | PO BOX 9177 |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/CityNm | 0 | WAUKEGAN |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/StateAbbreviationCd | 0 | IL |
| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/ZIPCd | 0 | 60079 |
| ReturnHeader/FilingSecurityInformation/AtSubmissionCreationDeviceId | 0 | 9376A6F74FC5D784E58B35B01C249CA9EC0A161F |
| ReturnHeader/FilingSecurityInformation/AtSubmissionFilingDeviceId | 0 | 9376A6F74FC5D784E58B35B01C249CA9EC0A161F |
| ReturnHeader/FilingSecurityInformation/FederalOriginalSubmissionId | 0 | 36500220171241600008 |
| ReturnHeader/FilingSecurityInformation/FederalOriginalSubmissionIdDt | 0 | 2017-05-04 |
| ReturnHeader/FilingSecurityInformation/FilingLicenseTypeCd | 0 | P |
| ReturnHeader/FilingSecurityInformation/IPAddress/IPv4AddressTxt | 0 | 96.95.127.146 |
| ReturnHeader/FilingSecurityInformation/IPDt | 0 | 2017-05-04 |
| ReturnHeader/FilingSecurityInformation/IPTm | 0 | 19:12:00 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerFirmEIN | 0 | 364000455 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerFirmName/BusinessNameLine1Txt | 0 | JANUARY ACCOUNTING SERVICE |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/AddressLine1Txt | 0 | 1101 CHESTNUT ST |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/CityNm | 0 | WAUKEGAN |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/StateAbbreviationCd | 0 | IL |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/ZIPCd | 0 | 60085 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PhoneNum | 0 | 8472630074 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PreparerPersonNm | 0 | KAMIL D SMITH |
| ReturnHeader/ReturnTs | 0 | 2017-10-30T13:04:05-05:00 |
| ReturnHeader/ReturnTypeCd | 0 | 990EZ |
| ReturnHeader/TaxPeriodBeginDt | 0 | 2016-01-01 |
| ReturnHeader/TaxPeriodEndDt | 0 | 2016-12-31 |
| ReturnHeader/TaxYr | 0 | 2016 |
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