Liabilities / Assets
60th percentile
Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.
Wadsworth Amateur Soccer Asscciation
EIN 34-1322212 • 501(c)3 • Wadsworth, OH
Profile
To provide organized youth soccer to the general public.
Siviq Scores
Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.
0.00x
Liabilities / Revenue
62nd percentile
Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.
Net Margin
84th percentile
Higher net margin than 84% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
81st percentile
Higher top officer pay than 81% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
95th percentile
Faster asset growth than 95% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
73rd percentile
Faster revenue growth than 73% of similar nonprofits.
Balance Sheet
Assets
Up$193,303
Up $123,117 (+175%) from 2023
Liabilities
Flat$0
Flat from 2023
Net Assets
Up$193,303
Up $123,117 (+175%) from 2023
Revenue
Up$175,125
Up $31,749 (+22%) from 2023
Expenses
Down$114,818
Down $20,793 (-15%) from 2023
Net Income
Up$60,307
Up $52,542 (+677%) from 2023
Trend Graphs
Filings
Most recent year
2024 • Form 990EZDetailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.
- Assets
- $193,303
- Liabilities
- $0
- Net assets
- $193,303
- Revenue
- $175,125
- Expenses
- $114,818
- Net income
- $60,307
Latest Filing Detail
Jump To
Filing Snapshot
- Filing Period
- Dec 1, 2023 to Nov 30, 2024
- Signed
- Jul 17, 2025
- Return Version
- 2023v6.0
- Gross Receipts
- $175,167
Mission and Program Overview
Mission
to provide organized youth soccer
To provide organized youth soccer to the general public.
Program Services
| Description | Grants | Expenses |
|---|---|---|
| PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO PLAY ORGANIZED SOCCER FOR ALL AGE GROUPS. | $0 | $114,818 |
Compensation and Service Providers
Employees
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| VICTOR ROBINSON | Director | PT | $0 | - | - |
| BETHANY KOVACEVICH | Secretary | PT | $0 | - | - |
| PHILLIP PETIT | Director | PT | $0 | - | - |
| JASON ARNOLD | Communications Director | PT | $0 | - | - |
| FRANK MUHL | President | PT | $0 | - | - |
| JASON LIDDY | Vice President | PT | $0 | - | - |
Filing and Contact Details
Filer
- Filer Name
- Wadsworth Amateur Soccer Asscciation
- EIN
- 34-1322212
- Phone
- 3304728318
- Address
- 390 TREASE RD, WADSWORTH, OH 44281
Signing Officer
- Name
- Frank Muhl
- Title
- President
- Phone
- 3304728318
- Signed
- 2025-07-17
- Discuss with paid preparer
- Yes
Preparer
- Firm
- Rw Corwin & Company Inc
- Address
- PO BOX 690, WADSWORTH, OH 44282-0690
- Preparer
- Russell W Corwin CPA
- Phone
- 3303361004
Supplemental Narrative
Additional Explanations
Form 990-ez, Part I, Line 8 - Other Revenue
“Description: interest income. Amount: 274.”
Form 990-ez, Part I, Line 14
“Description: depreciation. Amount: 7,266.”
Form 990-ez, Part I, Line 16 - Other Expenses
“Description: uniforms. Amount: 13,675. Description: registration fees. Amount: 16,783. Description: office/admin expense. Amount: 152. Description: promotions. Amount: 973. Description: bank fees. Amount: 219. Description: coach training. Amount: 12,752. Description: field maint. Amount: 20,776. Description: payroll fees. Amount: 58. Description: operation expense. Amount: 13,558. Description: referees. Amount: 14,849. Description: medals. Amount: 2,469. Description: accounting fees. Amount: 315. Description: dues/subscriptions. Amount: 855. Description: camps & clinics. Amount: 357. Description: legal fees. Amount: 67. Description: tournaments and training. Amount: 9,194. Description: scholarships. Amount: 500. Total to form 990-ez, line 16: 107,552.”
Form 990-ez, Part I, Line 20 - Other Changes in Net Assets
“Description: prior period adjustments. Amount: 62,810.”
Form 990-ez, Part II, Line 24 - Other Assets
“Description: other depreciable assets. Beg. Of year amount: 27,580. End of year amount: 71,454.”
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| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 0 | DESCRIPTION: INTEREST INCOME. AMOUNT: 274. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 1 | DESCRIPTION: DEPRECIATION. AMOUNT: 7,266. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 2 | DESCRIPTION: UNIFORMS. AMOUNT: 13,675. DESCRIPTION: REGISTRATION FEES. AMOUNT: 16,783. DESCRIPTION: OFFICE/ADMIN EXPENSE. AMOUNT: 152. DESCRIPTION: PROMOTIONS. AMOUNT: 973. DESCRIPTION: BANK FEES. AMOUNT: 219. DESCRIPTION: COACH TRAINING. AMOUNT: 12,752. DESCRIPTION: FIELD MAINT. AMOUNT: 20,776. DESCRIPTION: PAYROLL FEES. AMOUNT: 58. DESCRIPTION: OPERATION EXPENSE. AMOUNT: 13,558. DESCRIPTION: REFEREES. AMOUNT: 14,849. DESCRIPTION: MEDALS. AMOUNT: 2,469. DESCRIPTION: ACCOUNTING FEES. AMOUNT: 315. DESCRIPTION: DUES/SUBSCRIPTIONS. AMOUNT: 855. DESCRIPTION: CAMPS & CLINICS. AMOUNT: 357. DESCRIPTION: LEGAL FEES. AMOUNT: 67. DESCRIPTION: TOURNAMENTS AND TRAINING. AMOUNT: 9,194. DESCRIPTION: SCHOLARSHIPS. AMOUNT: 500. TOTAL TO FORM 990-EZ, LINE 16: 107,552. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 3 | DESCRIPTION: PRIOR PERIOD ADJUSTMENTS. AMOUNT: 62,810. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 4 | DESCRIPTION: OTHER DEPRECIABLE ASSETS. BEG. OF YEAR AMOUNT: 27,580. END OF YEAR AMOUNT: 71,454. |
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