Liabilities / Assets
63rd percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 63% of similar nonprofits.
EIN 33-0152755 • 501(c)3 • Temecula, CA
Profile
Historical Preservation
Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.
Liabilities / Assets
63rd percentile
Higher debt load relative to assets than 63% of similar nonprofits.
Liabilities / Revenue
70th percentile
Higher debt load relative to revenue than 70% of similar nonprofits.
Net Margin
59th percentile
Higher net margin than 59% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
81st percentile
Higher top officer pay than 81% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
55th percentile
Faster asset growth than 55% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
33rd percentile
Faster revenue growth than 33% of similar nonprofits.
Assets
Up$86,576
Up $116 (+0.1%) from 2023
Liabilities
Down$300
Down $1,800 (-86%) from 2023
Net Assets
Up$86,276
Up $1,916 (+2.3%) from 2023
Revenue
Down$28,304
Down $7,574 (-21%) from 2023
Expenses
Down$26,388
Down $10,444 (-28%) from 2023
Net Income
Up$1,916
Up $2,870 (+301%) from 2023
Most recent year
2024 • Form 990EZDetailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.
The mission of the organization is to collect, protct preserve and dislay the history and artifacts indigenous to the temecula valley
| Description | Grants | Expenses |
|---|---|---|
| OPERATION OF A MUSEUM AND HISTORICAL CHAPEL OF TEMECULA HISTORY TO PRESERVE AND EXHIBIT LOCAL HISTORY. | - | $14,659 |
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DALE GARCIA | Treasurer | - | $0 | - | - |
| Rosemary Kingsbury | Board Member | - | $0 | - | - |
| DEBORAH GRAZIANO | President | - | $0 | - | - |
| MAX CANTU | Secretary | - | $0 | - | - |
| BILL VEALE | Board Member | - | $0 | - | - |
| Jim Richerson | Board Member | - | $0 | - | - |
“Advertising and Promotion $1489”
“Office Expenses $63”
“Travel $160”
“Insurance $477”
“STORAGE $2040”
“Dues & subscriptions $2002”
“TELECOMMUNICATIONS $1812”
“JANITORIAL $750”
“SUPPLIES $523”
“SOFTWARE $268”
“GIFTS $260”
“WEBSITE $214”
“CITY FEES $150”
“Bank & credit card fees $91”
“LICENSES AND FEES $25”
“CUSTOMER DEPOSITS - Beginning $2100 CUSTOMER DEPOSITS - Ending $300”
This appendix keeps the raw XML leaves available for debugging and edge-case review. The human report above is the primary experience.
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| IRS990EZ/ChgMadeToOrgnzngDocNotRptInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/CostOfGoodsSoldAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/CostOrOtherBasisExpenseSaleAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/DonorAdvisedFndsInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/EngagedInExcessBenefitTransInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/ExcessOrDeficitForYearAmt | 0 | 1916 |
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| IRS990EZ/Form1120PolFiledInd | 0 | false |
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| IRS990EZ/Form990TotalAssetsGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 86576 |
| IRS990EZ/FundraisingGrossIncomeAmt | 0 | 350 |
| IRS990EZ/GrossReceiptsAmt | 0 | 28606 |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InfoInScheduleOPartIInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/InvestmentIncomeAmt | 0 | 1011 |
| IRS990EZ/LobbyingActivitiesInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/MadeLoansToFromOfficersInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/MethodOfAccountingCashInd | 0 | X |
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| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 1 | 4.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 2 | 4.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 3 | 4.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 4 | 4.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/AverageHrsPerWkDevotedToPosRt | 5 | 4.00 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 1 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 2 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 3 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 4 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/CompensationAmt | 5 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 0 | DALE GARCIA |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 1 | Rosemary Kingsbury |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 2 | DEBORAH GRAZIANO |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 3 | MAX CANTU |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 4 | BILL VEALE |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/PersonNm | 5 | Jim Richerson |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 0 | Treasurer |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 1 | BOARD MEMBER |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 2 | President |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 3 | Secretary |
| IRS990EZ/OfficerDirectorTrusteeEmplGrp/TitleTxt | 4 | BOARD MEMBER |
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| IRS990EZ/Organization501c3Ind | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/OrganizationDissolvedEtcInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/OrganizationHadUBIInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/OtherExpensesTotalAmt | 0 | 10324 |
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| IRS990EZ/PartVIOfCompOfHghstPdEmplTxt | 0 | NONE |
| IRS990EZ/PoliticalCampaignActyInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/PrimaryExemptPurposeTxt | 0 | THE MISSION OF THE ORGANIZATION IS TO COLLECT, PROTCT PRESERVE AND DISLAY THE HISTORY AND ARTIFACTS INDIGENOUS TO THE TEMECULA VALLEY |
| IRS990EZ/PrintingPublicationsPostageAmt | 0 | 307 |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramServiceRevenueAmt | 0 | 27245 |
| IRS990EZ/ProgramSrvcAccomplishmentGrp/DescriptionProgramSrvcAccomTxt | 0 | OPERATION OF A MUSEUM AND HISTORICAL CHAPEL OF TEMECULA HISTORY TO PRESERVE AND EXHIBIT LOCAL HISTORY. |
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| IRS990EZ/ProhibitedTaxShelterTransInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/RelatedOrganizationCtrlEntInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/ScheduleBNotRequiredInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/SchoolOperatingInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/SpecialEventsDirectExpensesAmt | 0 | 302 |
| IRS990EZ/SpecialEventsNetIncomeLossAmt | 0 | 48 |
| IRS990EZ/StatesWhereCopyOfReturnIsFldCd | 0 | CA |
| IRS990EZ/SubjectToProxyTaxInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/SumOfTotalLiabilitiesGrp/BOYAmt | 0 | 2100 |
| IRS990EZ/SumOfTotalLiabilitiesGrp/EOYAmt | 0 | 300 |
| IRS990EZ/TanningServicesProvidedInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedOnOrganizationMgrAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4911Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4912Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxImposedUnderIRC4955Amt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TaxReimbursedByOrganizationAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalExpensesAmt | 0 | 26388 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalProgramServiceExpensesAmt | 0 | 14659 |
| IRS990EZ/TotalRevenueAmt | 0 | 28304 |
| IRS990EZ/TransactionWithControlEntInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/TrnsfrExmptNonChrtblRltdOrgInd | 0 | false |
| IRS990EZ/TypeOfOrganizationCorpInd | 0 | X |
| IRS990EZ/WebsiteAddressTxt | 0 | N/A |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossInvestmentIncome509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus2YearsAmt | 0 | 325 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossInvestmentIncome509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus3YearsAmt | 0 | 249 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossInvestmentIncome509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 543 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossInvestmentIncome509Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 2956 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearAmt | 0 | 27595 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 35653 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus2YearsAmt | 0 | 25183 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus3YearsAmt | 0 | 6399 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 7731 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsAdmissionsGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 102561 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/GrossReceiptsNonUnrltBusGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/InvestmentIncomeAndUBTIGrp/CurrentTaxYearAmt | 0 | 1011 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/InvestmentIncomeAndUBTIGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 828 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/InvestmentIncomeAndUBTIGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 543 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/OtherIncome509Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/Post1975UBTIGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 0 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/PubliclySupportedOrg509a2Ind | 0 | X |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus2YearsAmt | 0 | 31183 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/CurrentTaxYearMinus4YearsAmt | 0 | 7731 |
| IRS990ScheduleA/Total509Grp/TotalAmt | 0 | 108561 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportCalendarYearGrp/CurrentTaxYearMinus1YearAmt | 0 | 36481 |
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| IRS990ScheduleA/TotalSupportCalendarYearGrp/TotalAmt | 0 | 111517 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 0 | Advertising and Promotion $1489 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 1 | Office Expenses $63 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 2 | Travel $160 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 3 | Insurance $477 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 4 | STORAGE $2040 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 5 | DUES & SUBSCRIPTIONS $2002 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 6 | TELECOMMUNICATIONS $1812 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 7 | JANITORIAL $750 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 8 | SUPPLIES $523 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 9 | SOFTWARE $268 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 10 | GIFTS $260 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 11 | WEBSITE $214 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 12 | CITY FEES $150 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 13 | BANK & CREDIT CARD FEES $91 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 14 | LICENSES AND FEES $25 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 15 | CUSTOMER DEPOSITS - Beginning $2100 CUSTOMER DEPOSITS - Ending $300 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 0 | Other Expenses.1001 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 1 | Other Expenses.1002 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 2 | Other Expenses.1005 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 3 | Other Expenses.1012 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 4 | Other Expenses.1 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 5 | Other Expenses.2 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 6 | Other Expenses.3 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 7 | Other Expenses.4 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 8 | Other Expenses.5 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 9 | Other Expenses.7 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 10 | Other Expenses.8 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 11 | Other Expenses.9 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 12 | Other Expenses.10 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 13 | Other Expenses.11 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 14 | Other Expenses.12 |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/FormAndLineReferenceDesc | 15 | Total Liabilities.1 |
| ReturnHeader/BuildTS | 0 | 2025-03-06 01:10:19Z |
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| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/PersonTitleTxt | 0 | Treasurer |
| ReturnHeader/BusinessOfficerGrp/SignatureDt | 0 | 2025-05-10 |
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| ReturnHeader/Filer/EIN | 0 | 330152755 |
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| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/CityNm | 0 | TEMECULA |
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| ReturnHeader/Filer/USAddress/ZIPCd | 0 | 92593 |
| ReturnHeader/IRSResponsiblePrtyInfoCurrInd | 0 | true |
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| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerFirmName/BusinessNameLine1Txt | 0 | NIGRO & NIGRO PC |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/AddressLine1Txt | 0 | 25220 Hancock Ave Ste 400 |
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| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/StateAbbreviationCd | 0 | CA |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerFirmGrp/PreparerUSAddress/ZIPCd | 0 | 92562 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PhoneNum | 0 | 9516988783 |
| ReturnHeader/PreparerPersonGrp/PreparerPersonNm | 0 | Anzhelika Vartikyan CPA |
| ReturnHeader/ReturnTs | 0 | 2025-05-12T09:34:35-07:00 |
| ReturnHeader/ReturnTypeCd | 0 | 990EZ |
| ReturnHeader/TaxPeriodBeginDt | 0 | 2024-01-01 |
| ReturnHeader/TaxPeriodEndDt | 0 | 2024-12-31 |
| ReturnHeader/TaxYr | 0 | 2024 |
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