Civic Intelligence

Desert Thunder-A Childrens Charity

EIN 32-0083923 • 501(c)3 • San Bernardino, CA

Profile

To provide donations to children's charities in Southern California and Las Vegas

PO Box 123San Bernardino, CA 92402

desertthunder.org

Siviq Scores

Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.

Liabilities / Assets

Score unavailable

No value available

Liabilities-to-assets requires both liabilities and assets on the latest valid filing.

Source year 2017

Liabilities / Revenue

Score unavailable

No value available

Liabilities-to-revenue requires both liabilities and revenue on the latest valid filing.

Source year 2017

Net Margin

66th percentile

12%

Higher net margin than 66% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2017

Top Officer Pay

81st percentile

$0

Higher top officer pay than 81% of similar nonprofits.

Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2017

Asset Growth

94th percentile

160%

Faster asset growth than 94% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2016 to 2017

Revenue Growth

50th percentile

-2.4%

Faster revenue growth than 50% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2016 to 2017

Balance Sheet
Liabilities / AssetsScore unavailable

Assets

Up

$6,363

Up $3,914 (+160%) from 2016

Liabilities

-

No earlier filing loaded for comparison.

Net Assets

Up

$6,363

Up $3,914 (+160%) from 2016

Operations
Liabilities / RevenueScore unavailableNet Margin66th percentile

Revenue

Down

$31,667

Down $769 (-2.4%) from 2016

Expenses

Down

$27,753

Down $12,634 (-31%) from 2016

Net Income

Up

$3,914

Up $11,865 (+149%) from 2016

Trend Graphs

Balance Sheet Trend

Asset Growth94th percentile

Grouped bars show assets, liabilities, and net assets across loaded filings.

$15K$10K$5.0K$0Assets 2013: $8,699Net Assets 2013: $8,6992013Assets 2014: $12,784Net Assets 2014: $12,7842014Assets 2015: $10,400Net Assets 2015: $10,4002015Assets 2016: $2,449Net Assets 2016: $2,4492016Assets 2017: $6,363Net Assets 2017: $6,3632017

Highlighted filing

2017

Assets$6,363
Liabilities-
Net Assets$6,363
Open 2017 Filing

Operations Trend

Revenue Growth50th percentile

Revenue, expenses, and net income by year, with the latest filing highlighted.

$60K$40K$20K$0-$20KRevenue 2013: $39,050Expenses 2013: $39,068Net Income 2013: -$182013Revenue 2014: $52,465Expenses 2014: $48,380Net Income 2014: $4,0852014Revenue 2015: $34,500Expenses 2015: $36,884Net Income 2015: -$2,3842015Revenue 2016: $32,436Expenses 2016: $40,387Net Income 2016: -$7,9512016Revenue 2017: $31,667Expenses 2017: $27,753Net Income 2017: $3,9142017

Highlighted filing

2017

Revenue$31,667
Expenses$27,753
Net Income$3,914
Open 2017 Filing

Filings

Most recent year

2017 • Form 990EZXML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.

Open filing
Assets
$6,363
Liabilities
-
Net assets
$6,363
Revenue
$31,667
Expenses
$27,753
Net income
$3,914
Balance SheetOperations
YearAssetsLiabilitiesNet AssetsRevenueExpensesNet Income
2017XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$6.36$6.36$31.7$27.8$3.91
2016XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$2.45$2.45$32.4$40.4$7.95
2015Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$10.4$10.4$34.5$36.9$2.38
2014XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$12.8$12.8$52.5$48.4$4.09
2013XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$8.70$8.70$39.1$39.1$0.02
Latest Detailed Filing

The latest 2017 filing currently has linked XML that has not been fully parsed yet. Showing the latest detailed filing from 2015 below.

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Filing Snapshot
Filing Period
Jan 1, 2015 to Dec 31, 2015
Signed
May 4, 2016
Return Version
2015v2.0
Gross Receipts
$34,500
Mission and Program Overview

Mission

To provide donations to children's charities in Southern California and Las Vegas

Program Services

DescriptionGrantsExpenses
Donations in 2015 were made to 2 different children's charities with the sole intent to benefit children and one family of a fallen police officer.$34,484$2,400
Compensation and Service Providers
Top Officer Pay81st percentile

Employees

NameTitleFull / Part TimeBaseOtherTotal
Doug HubbardPresident-$0--
Joe NecocheaVice President-$0--
Jason SchroederTreasurer-$0--
Danielle BellSecretary-$0--
Brenda HulseyBoard Member-$0--
Dave BurgessDirector-$0--
Ross DvorakBoard Member-$0--
Matt SchillingDirector-$0--
Jeremy HagenBoard Member-$0--
Dario JuarezBoard Member-$0--
Todd EspindolaBoard Member-$0--
Eddie StarkBoard Member-$0--
Rick MoralesBoard Member-$0--
Filing and Contact Details

Filer

Filer Name
Desert Thunder-A Childrens Charity
EIN
32-0083923
Phone
9095532361
Address
PO Box 123, San Bernardino, CA 92402

Signing Officer

Name
Jason Schroeder
Title
Treasurer
Signed
2016-05-04
Discuss with paid preparer
Yes

Preparer

Firm
John W Hulterstrom CPA
Address
18484 Highway 18 Suite 165, Apple Valley, CA 92307
Preparer
John W Hulterstrom
Phone
7602423393
Supplemental Narrative

Additional Explanations

Other Revenue.1

“Special Events $34096”

Other Expenses.1001

“Advertising and Promotion $532”

Other Expenses.1002

“Office Expenses $87”

Other Expenses.1005

“Travel $131”

Other Expenses.1012

“Insurance $775”

Other Expenses.1

“T Shirts $1662”

Other Expenses.2

“Misc Expenses $1660”

Other Expenses.3

“Prizes $1546”

Other Expenses.4

“Auction $1480”

Other Expenses.5

“Event Pins $644”

Other Expenses.6

“Permits and Fees $400”

Other Expenses.7

“Bank Charges $353”

Raw XML Appendix204 raw XML fields

This appendix keeps the raw XML leaves available for debugging and edge-case review. The human report above is the primary experience.

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