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The Craig P Hutchinson Memorial
EIN 20-8923828 • 501(c)3 • Nashua, NH
Profile
The mission of the craig p hutchinson memorial fund is to support the charitable endeavors of the independent karate school community, including academic scholarships for community members, and support of other approved programs.
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Liabilities / Revenue
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Net Margin
27th percentile
Higher net margin than 27% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
84th percentile
Higher top officer pay than 84% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
47th percentile
Faster asset growth than 47% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
51st percentile
Faster revenue growth than 51% of similar nonprofits.
Balance Sheet
Assets
Down$89,018
Down $3,283 (-3.6%) from 2023
Liabilities
-
No earlier filing loaded for comparison.
Net Assets
Down$89,018
Down $3,283 (-3.6%) from 2023
Revenue
Down$22,716
Down $79 (-0.3%) from 2023
Expenses
Up$26,000
Up $24,629 (+1796%) from 2023
Net Income
Down-$3,284
Down $24,708 (-115%) from 2023
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Filings
Most recent year
2024 • Form 990EZDetailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.
- Assets
- $89,018
- Liabilities
- -
- Net assets
- $89,018
- Revenue
- $22,716
- Expenses
- $26,000
- Net income
- -$3,284
Latest Filing Detail
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Filing Snapshot
- Filing Period
- Jan 1, 2024 to Dec 31, 2024
- Signed
- May 12, 2025
- Return Version
- 2024v5.0
- Gross Receipts
- $26,516
Mission and Program Overview
Mission
The mission of the indpendent karate school scholarship foundation is to support the charitable endeavors of the independent karate school community, including academic scholarships for community members, and support of other approved programs.
The mission of the craig p hutchinson memorial fund is to fund the academic endeavors of independent martial arts school black belts; support programs, activities and initiatives that grow the pipeline of potential black belts through the independent martial arts school, inc.
Program Services
| Description | Grants | Expenses |
|---|---|---|
| THE MISSION OF THE CRAIG P HUTCHINSON MEMORIAL FUND IS TO SUPPORT THE CHARITABLE ENDEAVORS OF THE INDEPENDENT KARATE SCHOOL COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIPS FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND SUPPORT OF OTHER APPROVED PROGRAMS. | - | $26,000 |
Compensation and Service Providers
Employees
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| JEFF MAISTROSKY | President | - | $0 | - | - |
| HOLLY HAYDEN | Treasurer | PT | $0 | - | - |
| KATHERINE BONAMO | Secretary | - | $0 | - | - |
| PETER DESMARAIS | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
| DEIRDRE LITTLEWOOD | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
| MICHAEL SUSALKA | Non-Voting M | - | $0 | - | - |
Fundraising, Events, and Gaming
Fundraising Events
| Event | Gross Receipts | Gross Revenue | Direct Expenses | Net Income |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miscellaneous F | $26,066 | $26,066 | $3,800 | $22,266 |
| Total Events | $26,066 | $26,066 | $3,800 | $22,266 |
Filing and Contact Details
Filer
- Filer Name
- The Craig P Hutchinson Memorial
- EIN
- 20-8923828
- Phone
- 6038826917
- Address
- 138 LAKE ST, NASHUA, NH 03060
Signing Officer
- Name
- Holly Hayden
- Title
- Treasurer
- Phone
- 6038833781
- Signed
- 2025-05-12
- Discuss with paid preparer
- Yes
Preparer
- Firm
- Nh Tax & Bookkeeping LLC
- Address
- 25 NASHUA ROAD UNIT B2, LONDONDERRY, NH 03053
- Preparer
- Sara J Morin-payne Ea
- Phone
- 6034342706
Supplemental Narrative
Additional Explanations
Form 990-ez, Part I
“There was a 10,000 scholarship awarded to simmons university on behalf of kaitlyn frye, another 10,000 scholarship awarded to worcester polytechnic university on behalf of annika hayden, a 1,500 scholarship awarded to max lowell and a 500 scholarship awarded to bishop guertin high school on behalf of o-sensei lou desmarais.”
Form 990-ez, Part I, Line 16
“Expenses dues 75 scholarship winner 22,000 total 22,075”
Form 990-ez, Part II, Line 24
“Due from iks 2,251 2,251 total 2,251 2,251”
Form 990-ez, Part III
“The mission of the craig p hutchinson memorial fund is to fund the academic endeavors of independent martial arts school black belts; support programs, activities and initiatives that grow the pipeline of potential black belts through the independent martial arts school, inc.”
Form 990-ez, Part III, Line 28
“The mission of the craig p hutchinson memorial fund is to support the charitable endeavors of the independent karate school community, including academic scholarships for community members, and support of other approved programs.”
Form 990-ez, Part V, Line 34
“The bylaws were updated in october, 2024. The conflict of interest, gift acceptance and expense reimbursement policies were also formally adopted. The policies are electronically attached to this filing.”
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| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 0 | THERE WAS A 10,000 SCHOLARSHIP AWARDED TO SIMMONS UNIVERSITY ON BEHALF OF KAITLYN FRYE, ANOTHER 10,000 SCHOLARSHIP AWARDED TO WORCESTER POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY ON BEHALF OF ANNIKA HAYDEN, A 1,500 SCHOLARSHIP AWARDED TO MAX LOWELL AND A 500 SCHOLARSHIP AWARDED TO BISHOP GUERTIN HIGH SCHOOL ON BEHALF OF O-SENSEI LOU DESMARAIS. |
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| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 3 | THE MISSION OF THE CRAIG P HUTCHINSON MEMORIAL FUND IS TO FUND THE ACADEMIC ENDEAVORS OF INDEPENDENT MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL BLACK BELTS; SUPPORT PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES AND INITIATIVES THAT GROW THE PIPELINE OF POTENTIAL BLACK BELTS THROUGH THE INDEPENDENT MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL, INC. |
| IRS990ScheduleO/SupplementalInformationDetail/ExplanationTxt | 4 | THE MISSION OF THE CRAIG P HUTCHINSON MEMORIAL FUND IS TO SUPPORT THE CHARITABLE ENDEAVORS OF THE INDEPENDENT KARATE SCHOOL COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIPS FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND SUPPORT OF OTHER APPROVED PROGRAMS. |
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