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EIN 20-4359813 • 501(c)3 • Bradenton, FL
Profile
The manatee chamber foundation has been established for the advancement of education and understanding of economics, matters of public concern, finance, housing, human relations, problems of minority groups, science and technology, economic planning and development, international relations and other subjects related to improved efficiency, development and acceleration of both the quality and quantity of economic growth and employment opportunities through any activity which tends to promote understanding, unification or improved relationships between different economic or ethnic groups.
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Liabilities / Assets
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Liabilities / Revenue
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Net Margin
79th percentile
Higher net margin than 79% of similar nonprofits.
Top Officer Pay
81st percentile
Higher top officer pay than 81% of similar nonprofits.
Top officer pay equals 0.0% of source-year revenue.
Asset Growth
69th percentile
Faster asset growth than 69% of similar nonprofits.
Revenue Growth
54th percentile
Faster revenue growth than 54% of similar nonprofits.
Assets
Up$307,165
Up $30,071 (+11%) from 2023
Liabilities
-
No earlier filing loaded for comparison.
Net Assets
Up$307,165
Up $30,071 (+11%) from 2023
Revenue
Up$114,070
Up $1,032 (+0.9%) from 2023
Expenses
Up$83,999
Up $18,499 (+28%) from 2023
Net Income
Down$30,071
Down $17,467 (-37%) from 2023
Most recent year
2024 • Form 990EZDetailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.
The Manatee Chamber Foundation has been established for the advancement of education and understanding of economics, matters of public concern, finance, housing, human relations, problems of minority groups, science and technology, economic planning and development, international relations and other subjects related to improved efficiency, development and acceleration of both the quality and quantity of economic growth and employment opportunities through any activity which tends to promote understanding, unification or improved relationships between different economic or ethnic groups.
| Description | Grants | Expenses |
|---|---|---|
| Leadership Manatee is designed to expose current and future leaders to all aspects of Manatee County. The program's purpose is:To identify community leaders of diverse backgroundsTo develop their potential and desire to accept civic responsibilities and leadership roles.To expose community leaders to the problems and opportunities that face Manatee County.To build a realistic understanding of leadership in today's complex society.To open a dialogue among emerging and current community leaders.To acquaint leaders with the processes, programs, opportunities and challenges for individual involvement in Manatee County.The Foundations total expenses for 2024 were $83,999 (Professional Fees of $2,940 and Other Expenses of $81,059). | - | $83,999 |
| Name | Title | Full / Part Time | Base | Other | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Darcie Duncan | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
| Jackie Barron | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
| Phil Baker | President | - | $0 | - | - |
| Justin Phillips | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
| Chris Pennewill | Director | - | $0 | - | - |
| Jacqueline Dezelski | Secretary/Treas | - | $0 | - | - |
| Trudy Moon | Vice President | - | $0 | - | - |
“Office Expenses $1121”
“Travel $4420”
“Conferences, Conventions, and Meetings $18185”
“Insurance $905”
“Admin Fee $45000”
“Grants $5000”
“Miscellaneous $4442”
“Licenses and Fees $1751”
“Dues and Subscriptions $225”
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