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Hawkwing Inc

EIN 06-1600366 • 501(c)3 • Glastonbury, CT

Profile

For more than twenty years, hawkwing has served the people of Cheyenne River Sioux/Lakota Tribe (CRST) in South Dakota. It works to empower the People of CRST to enhance health and education, end hunger, bring clean water, and empower individuals to overcome generational repression through programs focused on personal and community development. Its vision is that the People of Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe get the chance to live healthy, fulfilling lives free of generational trauma and hardship while building better relationships among all people. With programs from micro-grants to major projects, Hawkwing has impacted the lives of nearly every person on CRST. Hawkwing is changing lives, healing hearts.

306 Cavan LaneGlastonbury, CT 06033

www.hawkwing.org

Siviq Scores

Precomputed percentiles relative to similar nonprofits. These scores are descriptive rather than judgmental.

Liabilities / Assets

60th percentile

0.00x

Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Liabilities / Revenue

62nd percentile

0.00x

Tied with the lowest-debt nonprofits in its peer group.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Net Margin

89th percentile

50%

Higher net margin than 89% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Top Officer Pay

88th percentile

$23,893

Higher top officer pay than 88% of similar nonprofits.

Top officer pay equals 20.9% of source-year revenue.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Source year 2024

Asset Growth

87th percentile

57%

Faster asset growth than 87% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Revenue Growth

59th percentile

4.8%

Faster revenue growth than 59% of similar nonprofits.

501(c)3 • <$500k nonprofits • Annualized from 2023 to 2024

Assets

Up

$157,319

Up $57,099 (+57%) from 2023

Liabilities

Flat

$0

Flat from 2023

Net Assets

Up

$157,319

Up $57,099 (+57%) from 2023

Revenue

Up

$114,089

Up $5,214 (+4.8%) from 2023

Expenses

Down

$56,990

Down $53,666 (-48%) from 2023

Net Income

Up

$57,099

Up $58,880 (+3306%) from 2023

Trend Graphs

Balance Sheet Trend

Grouped bars show assets, liabilities, and net assets across loaded filings.

$300K$200K$100K$0Assets 2010: $40,745Liabilities 2010: $0Net Assets 2010: $40,7452010Assets 2011: $34,913Liabilities 2011: $0Net Assets 2011: $34,9132011Assets 2012: $32,786Liabilities 2012: $0Net Assets 2012: $32,7862012Assets 2013: $35,366Liabilities 2013: $0Net Assets 2013: $35,3662013Assets 2014: $40,779Liabilities 2014: $0Net Assets 2014: $40,7792014Assets 2015: $211,324Liabilities 2015: $0Net Assets 2015: $211,3242015Assets 2016: $253,037Liabilities 2016: $0Net Assets 2016: $253,0372016Assets 2017: $216,072Liabilities 2017: $0Net Assets 2017: $216,0722017Assets 2018: $150,441Liabilities 2018: $0Net Assets 2018: $150,4412018Assets 2019: $108,715Liabilities 2019: $0Net Assets 2019: $108,7152019Assets 2020: $137,038Liabilities 2020: $0Net Assets 2020: $137,0382020Assets 2021: $208,300Liabilities 2021: $0Net Assets 2021: $208,3002021Assets 2022: $155,161Liabilities 2022: $0Net Assets 2022: $155,1612022Assets 2023: $100,220Liabilities 2023: $0Net Assets 2023: $100,2202023Assets 2024: $157,319Liabilities 2024: $0Net Assets 2024: $157,3192024

Highlighted filing

2024

Assets$157,319
Liabilities$0
Net Assets$157,319

Operations Trend

Revenue, expenses, and net income by year, with the latest filing highlighted.

$1.5M$1.0M$500K$0-$500KRevenue 2010: $285,462Expenses 2010: $269,682Net Income 2010: $15,7802010Revenue 2011: $447,365Expenses 2011: $453,197Net Income 2011: -$5,8322011Revenue 2012: $387,738Expenses 2012: $389,178Net Income 2012: -$1,4402012Revenue 2013: $686,537Expenses 2013: $682,880Net Income 2013: $3,6572013Revenue 2014: $839,167Expenses 2014: $835,420Net Income 2014: $3,7472014Revenue 2015: $455,941Expenses 2015: $285,395Net Income 2015: $170,5462015Revenue 2016: $1,074,076Expenses 2016: $1,036,763Net Income 2016: $37,3132016Revenue 2017: $443,453Expenses 2017: $472,176Net Income 2017: -$28,7232017Revenue 2018: $776,860Expenses 2018: $842,026Net Income 2018: -$65,1662018Revenue 2019: $864,815Expenses 2019: $866,050Net Income 2019: -$1,2352019Revenue 2020: $1,064,739Expenses 2020: $1,049,593Net Income 2020: $15,1462020Revenue 2021: $874,118Expenses 2021: $816,988Net Income 2021: $57,1302021Revenue 2022: $143,847Expenses 2022: $184,402Net Income 2022: -$40,5552022Revenue 2023: $108,875Expenses 2023: $110,656Net Income 2023: -$1,7812023Revenue 2024: $114,089Expenses 2024: $56,990Net Income 2024: $57,0992024

Highlighted filing

2024

Revenue$114,089
Expenses$56,990
Net Income$57,099

Filings

Balance SheetOperations
YearAssetsLiabilitiesNet AssetsRevenueExpensesNet Income
2024XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$0.16$0.00$0.16$0.11$0.06$0.06
2023Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$0.10$0.00$0.10$0.11$0.11$0.00
2022Facts available. Structured filing facts are available, but richer extracted sections are limited.$0.16$0.00$0.16$0.14$0.18$0.04
2021Detailed filing. Detailed filing data is available for this year.$0.21$0.00$0.21$0.87$0.82$0.06
2020XML pending. An XML filing is linked for this year, but detailed extraction is still pending.$0.14$0.00$0.14$1.06$1.05$0.02
2019Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.11$0.00$0.11$0.86$0.87$0.00
2018Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.15$0.00$0.15$0.78$0.84$0.07
2017Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.22$0.00$0.22$0.44$0.47$0.03
2016Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.25$0.00$0.25$1.07$1.04$0.04
2015Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.21$0.00$0.21$0.46$0.29$0.17
2014Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.04$0.00$0.04$0.84$0.84$0.00
2013Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.04$0.00$0.04$0.69$0.68$0.00
2012Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.03$0.00$0.03$0.39$0.39$0.00
2011Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.03$0.00$0.03$0.45$0.45$0.01
2010Summary only. Only limited summary data is available for this year.$0.04$0.00$0.04$0.29$0.27$0.02
Latest Detailed Filing

The latest 2024 filing currently has linked XML that has not been fully parsed yet. Showing the latest detailed filing from 2023 below.

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Filing Snapshot
Filing Period
Jan 1, 2023 to Dec 31, 2023
Signed
Nov 15, 2024
Return Version
2023v5.0
Gross Receipts
$108,875
Mission and Program Overview

Mission

hawkwing works to help the People of the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation and Connecticut residents overcome hardships and generational repression and through programs focused on enhancing personal and community development, boosting health and education, ending hunger and empowering individuals. Our vision is that all People get the chance to live healthy, fulfilling lives free of generational trauma and hardship.

hawkwing works to help the People of the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation and Connecticut residents overcome hardships and generational repression and through programs focused on enhancing personal and community development, boosting health and education ending hunger and empowering individuals. Our vision is that all People get the chance to live healthy, fulfilling lives free of generational trauma and hardship.

Program Services

DescriptionGrantsExpenses
Our President and CEO, Rochelle Ripley, goes to churches and schools to educate Non-indigenous people about the conditions of Cheyenne River Indian Reservation.$0$0
Compensation and Service Providers

Employees

NameTitleFull / Part TimeBaseOtherTotal
Rochelle RipleyPresident/CEOFT$58,521$3,274$61,795
Filing and Contact Details

Filer

Filer Name
Hawkwing Inc
EIN
06-1600366
Phone
8606338933
Address
306 Cavan Lane, Glastonbury, CT 06033

Signing Officer

Name
Rochelle Ripley
Title
President
Phone
8604021064
Signed
2024-11-15
Supplemental Narrative

Additional Explanations

Form 990-EZ, Part I, Line 16

Description;Amount^Office Supplies;680|Miscellaneous;50|Liability Insurance;4148|Travel;1040^Total;5918^

Form 990-EZ, Part I, Line 20

Money was removed from the various Share Certificate and Fund Accounts to cover expenses.

Raw XML Appendix174 raw XML fields

This appendix keeps the raw XML leaves available for debugging and edge-case review. The human report above is the primary experience.

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